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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
I probably fold here, however, FWIW if I was going to make this move this is one of the hands I do it with because you probably aren't in terrible shape.
~Justin |
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
Thanks for posting! It's a great move and I'll add it to my bag of tricks.
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
The presumption here is that an UTG raise represents oodles of strength and he will push over to isolate. In that respect, I like the move because an UTG raiser will probably do this almost all the time if he's not a maniac. (Good player's range on raising UTG at full table is probably only a few premium hands)
that being said, I still don't think I like the move because you don't know he has AK.. in this scenario, he had AK, you had a lot of equity and it was the right move.. but UTG could have easily had 10-10-A-A and you'd be 4:1.. I think it was very lucky he had AK, but it still seems like a shot in the dark/push and hope to be 2:1 dog type play.. not at all unreasonable for your chip stack, but more often than not I'm letting this go. |
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
Against a range of 99+, AJ+ the hero is a 2 to 1 dog so he's getting appropriate odds against the range. I would still have a hard time pulling the trigger given I've got enough chips to play even if I fold. But it's definitely something to consider.
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
I think it depends mostly on what UTG has been raising with up to this point.. all the callers aren't really scary, nothing represents a big hand.. but an UTG raise is the raise I respect the most and would give the tightest range towards if he had not been active previously.. I dunno, it's definitely a gutsy play.
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3351
pokenum -h ac as - 6h 7h Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV As Ac 1315168 76.81 391637 22.87 5499 0.32 0.770 7h 6h 391637 22.87 1315168 76.81 5499 0.32 0.230 http://twodimes.net/h/?z=16742 pokenum -h ah as - 6h 7h Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV As Ah 1333573 77.88 371831 21.72 6900 0.40 0.781 7h 6h 371831 21.72 1333573 77.88 6900 0.40 0.219 |
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
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hoping the initial raiser will reraise [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't you rather hope that everyone folds and you pick up a nice pot? |
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
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[ QUOTE ] hoping the initial raiser will reraise [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't you rather hope that everyone folds and you pick up a nice pot? [/ QUOTE ] When ther are 3 players in for 5K. it is kind of wishful thinking to hope they will all fold for another 5K. |
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Re: Phil Gordon\'s \"Fish N Chip\" Sandwich
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[ QUOTE ] hoping the initial raiser will reraise [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't you rather hope that everyone folds and you pick up a nice pot? [/ QUOTE ] Funny |
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