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Old 10-31-2005, 04:50 AM
durrrr durrrr is offline
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time for a value/bluff? Or does he know you wouldnt push a3/22 here? If you push do you think he folds 34soooooted? (could he have this even?). Vs. 22 you have 4 outs, I think a bluff of sorts should be considered here (not sure i'd do it, but it should be mentioned imo). Would you ever raise A3s, or 22/33 in this spot preflop? If not obviously a push isnt too favorable.
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: commerce 20-40NL results.

i'm a donkey.
i re-raised to 6K, he pushed without much hesitation...i knew he had 22 and i still couldn't fold cuz the pot was so big.
i should have raised like 3K more then folded when he pushed knowing i was beat, but i donked it off.

heres what happened...i knew he didn't have AA/KK but i thought there was a good chance he had JJ-88 and wanted to take control of the hand and find out how strong i was.

he played hand absolutely perfectly because he knew exactly what i had.
he knows i'm not raising out of position then bluffing into four players without a big pocket pair, and he know's how i'm going to interpret his raise, and he knows that because of the bad UTG player i'm going to reraise.

i think if i'm heads up no way i lose my stack...but sometimes my brain just farts.
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Old 10-31-2005, 05:32 AM
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i'm a donkey.... i re-raised to 6K ... i should have raised like 3K more then folded when he pushed ....

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$2700 straight.

Yeah, you should have raised 3k more instead of 3300 more? WTF? Come on, man!!!!! (Or did you make it 8700 to go?) I like your raise against this player. Sounds like you did exactly what you planned, excpet for the lay down part.

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wanted to take control of the hand and find out how strong i was.

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'til the re-pop part when you knew he had you beat, right?
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: commerce 20-40NL results.

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Yeah, you should have raised 3k more instead of 3300 more? WTF? Come on, man!!!!! (Or did you make it 8700 to go?) I like your raise against this player. Sounds like you did exactly what you planned, excpet for the lay down part.



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lol...yeah i don't sweat $300 differences...i made it like 6K more...not one of my better moments.
but i decided i had the best hand and wanted to take it down pronto.

the problem was i knew if i made it 3K more i might lose the raiser but get stuck playing OOP vs. the bad player which i guess i shouldn't have minded as much.

but yeah once villian pushed i knew exactly what he had...but i still had to call seeing as most of my stack was already in the middle.

law was nice enough to run it twice (only cuz we play alot together and he likes me)but i bricked off both times.
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:00 AM
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You see that part up top where Diablo told you to make it 6 to go? That's right, baby!!!!!!
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:01 AM
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yeah once villian pushed i knew exactly what he had...but i still had to call

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PS: SICKEST F'IN FEELING IN POKER
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Old 10-31-2005, 07:02 AM
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Default Re: commerce 20-40NL results.

BTW, you make it 6, does he re-raise or flat call?
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Old 10-31-2005, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: commerce 20-40NL results.

stop posting these little comments and go write us that article for the magazine or remind ray zee what your hand was, please [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-31-2005, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: commerce 20-40NL results.

you know once you make it 6k he has like 1700 left given what you said about stack sizes and you're basically priced in to call with 4 outs and 2 cards, right?
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Old 10-31-2005, 01:26 PM
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Very good post.
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