calling down

mat · #1 06-25-2005, 08:35 PM

if this is a boring post just let me know im all for improving the forum. is this worth a calldown i know nothing about the villan. it seems im never ahead here unless he is on clubs.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP calls, 4 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

SmileyEH · #2 06-25-2005, 08:37 PM

You want to fold this turn? You'd have to be insane. This is as standard a calldown as they come. Not only are you going to be good more than enough - you will draw out on a better hand 20% of the time anyway - hell, against some opponents this is a 3bet on the turn.

-SmileyEH

ihardlyknowher · #3 06-25-2005, 08:43 PM

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How did you get this?

mat · #4 06-25-2005, 08:48 PM

so do you think its pretty standard? a month ago i would have said yes but ive been getting killed in these spots lately....had to make sure

SmileyEH · #5 06-25-2005, 09:29 PM

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two pair, trips, gutshot. Should be about 20%.

-SmileyEH

ihardlyknowher · #6 06-25-2005, 09:46 PM

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you will draw out on a better hand 20% of the time anyway

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two pair, trips, gutshot. Should be about 20%.

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Assuming all your outs are clean.

SmileyEH · #7 06-25-2005, 10:08 PM

Sure, in any case it's beside the point. Folding with no outs would still be atrocious.

-SmileyEH

istewart · #8 06-25-2005, 10:36 PM

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you will draw out on a better hand 20% of the time anyway

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two pair, trips, gutshot. Should be about 20%.

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Nines and kings for the double-gutter. Not just a gutshot.

DBowling · #9 06-25-2005, 10:57 PM

dont fold this

mat · #10 06-25-2005, 11:14 PM

im glad that ive been doing the right thing i havent folded these hands yet. just needed some reinforcement cause ive lost this exact hand a ton of times lately. also this is my first time in full games in a while and ive had to take my aggressiveness down quite a bit. in 6max i was able to 3bet this situation a lot of times