Too aggressive?

[ihardlyknowher]

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I would think they are TT+ & AK, unless he is a maniac. But Hero would know this after 15 minutes at the table.

[mat]

i think you may be putting to much into the pre flop action. i have seen so many times where someone raises and then is re raised then caps it with a lot less of a hand. it would be a little different if the pot had already been bet and raised then the player caps. i see the pre flop cap in this hands situation to mean a lot less

[ihardlyknowher]

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i think you may be putting to much into the pre flop action. i have seen so many times where someone raises and then is re raised then caps it with a lot less of a hand. it would be a little different if the pot had already been bet and raised then the player caps. i see the pre flop cap in this hands situation to mean a lot less

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I think we have to agree to disagree here.

[shadow29]

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i think you may be putting to much into the pre flop action. i have seen so many times where someone raises and then is re raised then caps it with a lot less of a hand. it would be a little different if the pot had already been bet and raised then the player caps. i see the pre flop cap in this hands situation to mean a lot less

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I think we have to agree to disagree here.

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I'm still not sure why you're not value betting here?

I can't put villain on a range of hands that it is incorrect to value bet here. Can you? This is, of course, before the river c/r.

[ihardlyknowher]

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I can't put villain on a range of hands that it is incorrect to value bet here. Can you? This is, of course, before the river c/r.

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Yes- AA, AK, KK, QQ, JJ, & TT. If he won't call you with AK, then you should not value bet. OR, if he won't cap PF with TT (thus, we rule it out), you should not value bet. Because, in either case, you will not win 55% of the time that he calls.

[shadow29]

Assuming he both folds AK and doesn't cap TT

AA- Lose (6 combos)
KK- Chop (1 combo)
QQ- Win (6 combos)
JJ Lose (3 combos)

Thats 9 lose to 7 win/chop.

Given that JJ would have definetly spoken up on the turn, I think that we can discount that heavily. Take away 2 combos and thats 7 to 7. If he shows me KK I'm definetly betting, btw.

However, he will call with AK sometimes here. He will cap with TT sometimes. If we just put these at 1 combo total it's +EV to bet.

And his capping standards could be looser too.

Lemme know if some math is wrong, sorta pre-occupied right now.

[ihardlyknowher]

We have seen an A & a Q. Thus, only 3 combos each for AA and QQ (and 6 for AK). Not sure it matters though.

I was not discounting JJ as much. After thinking about it, that is probably wrong. I give.