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Old 06-01-2005, 04:48 PM
vanHelsing vanHelsing is offline
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Just wish the timer online was longer.

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Old 06-01-2005, 04:49 PM
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If you never folded here, it wouldn't be much of a leak. I just don't think it's something to worry about.
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:56 PM
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If you never folded here, it wouldn't be much of a leak. I just don't think it's something to worry about.

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I disagree. I would say that if you always folded here, it wouldn't be much of a leak.

Would you fold nut flush on this board and action? Consider that your hand is only nut flush plus one.

I love amoeba's reverse read, that opponent puts you on nut flush and is no longer afraid of it. Since everything that beats nut flush also beats you, lay it down.
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:00 PM
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Ok, but playing against you I push any A on this river 100% of the time. So how is that not a leak to fold here?
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Facing a river all-in with low FH. NL100 - 6max

It's a call. If he had a hand that beats yours, why wouldn't he check/raise? What could you possibly call this push with? If you have a flush, you will call a check/raise or at least will value bet it and he will gain more than blowing you off your hand like this. This looks a lot more like desperation than a monster.
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:06 PM
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Ok, but playing against you I push any A on this river 100% of the time. So how is that not a leak to fold here?

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LOL! Because you are lying. Anyway, as I said above, if you have seen the opponent make the "move of honor" more often than is appropriate, you call. But against a relatively unknown opponent, I stick with always fold as the correct move.

You didn't answer my question. Would you have folded nut flush here?
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:10 PM
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You keep claiming that's the same, but it really isn't. If I had the nut flush, then villain could have 22. If I have 22, then A7 is literally the only reasonable hand that beats me here.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:31 AM
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You keep claiming that's the same, but it really isn't. If I had the nut flush, then villain could have 22. If I have 22, then A7 is literally the only reasonable hand that beats me here.

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Good point. However, I think AA, KK, and 77 are not out of the question, here, either. Lots of players at these tables want so badly to trap you they could have slowplayed AA/KK from the beginning (then froze up with the flush got there on the turn). Heck, I would have played AA that way about 5% of the time.

Anyway, I stick with my opinion, which, you'll note, I stated in the very first reply to this note, long before results were posted. By an unknown player, the huge overbet usually means a very strong hand -- the nuts on an unpaired board and at least a full house on a paired board.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:34 AM
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you limp AA multiway from the small blinds?
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