Standard with QTs ?

Emperor · #1 04-25-2005, 11:17 PM

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, Button calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (14.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

Harv72b · #2 04-25-2005, 11:22 PM

Fold preflop.

Flop is good.

Raise the turn, fold to a 3-bet.

Bet the river when checked to you.

Megenoita · #3 04-25-2005, 11:34 PM

This is maybe your #1 leak. You call too many raises. And no, you can't 3-bet this PF, either. Read SSHE and actually study it-seriously. It covers this stuff well.

brazilio · #4 04-25-2005, 11:36 PM

I think that coldcall preflop is pretty bad.

Ten7offsuit · #5 04-25-2005, 11:37 PM

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This is maybe your #1 leak. You call too many raises. And no, you can't 3-bet this PF, either. Read SSHE and actually study it-seriously. It covers this stuff well.

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imported_CaseClosed326 · #6 04-25-2005, 11:38 PM

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I think that coldcall preflop is pretty bad.

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Super Pro · #7 04-25-2005, 11:40 PM

the coldcall preflop sucks. stop playing 2/4 if you're still making those calls. it'll cost you lots of money.

someone said raise the turn and fold to a 3-bet. i think that sucks too because it sucks to fold a clean 2 to 5 outer when you don't have to.

topspin · #8 04-25-2005, 11:40 PM

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This is maybe your #1 leak. You call too many raises. And no, you can't 3-bet this PF, either. Read SSHE and actually study it-seriously. It covers this stuff well.

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Are you somehow under the impression that Harv is Button in this hand?

mat · #9 04-25-2005, 11:44 PM

preflop enough already said... on the flop a raise is good i wouldnt let that bet stop you from being agressive on the turn i would raise. if you get some resistance after that you will most likley have to fold but thats what happens when you make those kinds of preflop decisions there are a lot of hands that get raised preflop that you could easily be behind

topspin · #10 04-25-2005, 11:44 PM

I'd fold preflop, play the flop and turn the same, and bet the river when checked to. I'd rather call than raise the turn -- you've got odds to see the river, but I don't think you're ahead enough for a raise to be for value. You can't reasonably fold to a 3-bet since at that point the pot is likely to be huge.