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Old 12-30-2005, 04:31 AM
FreakDaddy FreakDaddy is offline
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I bet a little more on the turn here. Let me put it this way, villian pretty much knows what you have here and he wants to get more money in the pot with his trips. I fold this turn raise nearly every time.
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:15 AM
xorbie xorbie is offline
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Check the turn.
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Old 12-30-2005, 08:52 AM
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either bet more on the turn or check it
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:25 AM
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Check the turn.

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check/call? Maybe, but you are giving up a lot of value to donk calling you down with a weaker king, which happens quite often at this level. I think as a previous poster mentioned it is very read dependent, without a read I would would probably bet 2/3 pot and fold to a reraise. I think hero has defined his hand, and most opponents will not give their opponents the credit for laying down TPTK, so a bluff reraise is unlikely.
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Old 12-30-2005, 11:45 AM
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Check the turn.

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Although I generally feel that this is overused on this forum, in this hand I agree.
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Old 12-30-2005, 01:38 PM
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Why in the world do you check the turn here? Opponent has shown no strength, he can easily be on the str8 draw or a worse pair. The turn card is a total blank. Do you check-call? Checking seems to just telegraph weakness and let you get blown off the hand by a worse hand. If you knew villain was a donk would you still check the turn?
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:17 PM
emil3000 emil3000 is offline
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Why in the world do you check the turn here? Opponent has shown no strength, he can easily be on the str8 draw or a worse pair./../ Checking seems to just telegraph weakness and let you get blown off the hand by a worse hand.

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Yes, this is true except you don't get blown off cause you call.

Checking behind on the turn with TPTK or an overpair is a very basic NL concept which really should be understood if you want to play at any kind of stakes.

The advantages are basically:
1) You keep the pot small with a mediocre hand.
2)You feign weakness, inducing him to bluff a missed draw in the river. This might well be more +EV than charging the draws on the turn.
3)You feign weakness and get a nice value bet in on the river against a K or maybe Q, which will often be dropped by a tightish opponent.

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If you knew villain was a donk would you still check the turn?

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Depends what sort of donk. I bet this turn against a calling station with very few moves, but against an aggro donk I am likely to check because a checkraise puts me in an ugly -EV spot where I am liable to make a mistake.

Other factors that might cause you to bet the turn is an aggro table image, a more drawy board etcetera, but checking behind with TPTK is very much ABC play.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:43 PM
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Very nice post Emil. How would you handle the type of opponent who almost always calls your continuation bet? Do you still check, and hope he will bluff?
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