[censored] yea!! (LC)

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Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $17.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $40, CO calls $22.90.


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What is going through your head here?

[vulturesrow]

Fold preflop [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ni han, sir.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $17.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $40, CO calls $22.90.


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What is going through your head here?

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Yes, this is atrocious, particularly if you know that CO is a maniac, but whatever. Ni han, sir.

[Rick H]

I'm new here, and haven't played much NL ring, but when I first read this thread, I thought I must be terrible.... I don't think I could have called that raise even on tilt and all previous replies indicated this was a good play. Am I just a bad weak-tight, or was this call bad?

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Flop: ($18) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $17.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $40, CO calls $22.90.


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What is going through your head here?

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Implied Odds [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Well, I DON'T think he should play this hand for flush-strength, ONLY straight strength.

Someone else could have him dominated with two hearts one of which is higher than a lowly 9.

So basically, I'd treat this as a gut-shot call, only hoping to hit a T that isn't a heart, PLUS dodge a heart on the river. There was a bet and a raise and now he's calling 40 for a 75 pot with the original bettor open for a re-raise...all for a gutshot.

IMO, this is a fold. But I don't play nearly high enough for 400NL.

Also, when the A falls on the river, is he sweating KQ at all? I know he's probably committed by this point but KQ in the opponents hand would suck.

[yvesaint]

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Well, I DON'T think he should play this hand for flush-strength, ONLY straight strength.

Someone else could have him dominated with two hearts one of which is higher than a lowly 9.

So basically, I'd treat this as a gut-shot call, only hoping to hit a T that isn't a heart, PLUS dodge a heart on the river. There was a bet and a raise and now he's calling 40 for a 75 pot with the original bettor open for a re-raise...all for a gutshot.

IMO, this is a fold. But I don't play nearly high enough for 400NL.

Also, when the A falls on the river, is he sweating KQ at all? I know he's probably committed by this point but KQ in the opponents hand would suck.

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Do you really play this weak-tight? You're going to get crushed at higher levels. You're worried about another flush draw? KQ when the A falls on the river?? Are you kidding me?? You want to DODGE a heart?

You play this on the flop like a flush draw + gutshot. Why play suited connectors or 1-gappers if you're not going to play for your suits. He already had a read on CO as a maniac, and the other guy has a very wide range to be raising, could be TPTK isolating the maniac, 2-pair, a set, etc.

[subzero]

Was someone there to revive you if T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] fell on the river?

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Final Pot: $1628.40

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Nice read, nice hand, nice pot. Shift the decimal one place to the left for my biggest pot.

CO has him covered (each has over 1.5 buy-ins total), what does he do here if CO pushes all in on the flop after it's been raised?

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Well, I DON'T think he should play this hand for flush-strength, ONLY straight strength.

Someone else could have him dominated with two hearts one of which is higher than a lowly 9.

So basically, I'd treat this as a gut-shot call, only hoping to hit a T that isn't a heart, PLUS dodge a heart on the river. There was a bet and a raise and now he's calling 40 for a 75 pot with the original bettor open for a re-raise...all for a gutshot.

IMO, this is a fold. But I don't play nearly high enough for 400NL.

Also, when the A falls on the river, is he sweating KQ at all? I know he's probably committed by this point but KQ in the opponents hand would suck.

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Sweat KQ? Yeh, KQ definitely beats his straight, but could you explain to me how someone might have that hand given the action on previous streets. You can't be serious.