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Old 07-10-2005, 06:57 AM
Nightwish Nightwish is offline
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Default 30/60 Jamming the turn

I'm not the BB (hero) in this hand.

This transpired in an online 30/60 game. UTG (LAG, but not crazy) limps, and everyone folds to the CO, who raises. It's the CO's first hand at this table, but hero knows that the CO is a TAG. SB folds, hero calls with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in the BB, and UTG calls too. 3 to the flop.

Flop {6.5 SB}: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Checked to the CO who bets, hero check-raises, UTG calls two cold, and CO calls.

Turn {6.25 BB}: (8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero bets, UTG calls, CO now raises, and hero 3-bets.


What do you guys think of hero's play?
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Old 07-10-2005, 08:51 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

I would 3-bet preflop.

I like the flop.

Turn: Come again?
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Old 07-11-2005, 12:06 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

"Turn: Come again?"

LOL. Nuff said.
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Old 07-10-2005, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

call me weak tight but i'm folding on the flop. It's not that good for you, get out now. given that you played the flop the way you did and got called in both spots i'd check call the turn or hope it gets checked through. once it's raised you should just call. 3 betting in a muliway pot is bad.
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Old 07-10-2005, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

I check-fold this turn 20% of the time and bet-fold it 75%. God only knows what I do the other 5%, but I don't see how you can rule out button having a better club & an overpair, or utg cold-calling again with the made flush or set or something. I see the rationale of forcing out better clubs in utg's hand but this is an expensive gamble since CO is allowed to be dealt clubs too. And if utg has the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], as seems likely, the Jaws of Life won't knock him out.

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Old 07-10-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

Are you missing the open ender that the OP just turned? CO likely doesn't have the flush at this time. He'd likely have jammed the flop with a flush draw.

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Old 07-10-2005, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

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Are you missing the open ender that the OP just turned? CO likely doesn't have the flush at this time. He'd likely have jammed the flop with a flush draw.

b

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Yes, I was missing it. I check-call but not two cold.

Thanks.
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Old 07-10-2005, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

Perfect.
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Old 07-11-2005, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

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Perfect.

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Any reasoning for why the turn 3-bet is perfect?
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Old 07-11-2005, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: 30/60 Jamming the turn

Why didn't you cap the flop? It might have made the turn easier to play also.
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