Pokerroom 200NL

[pokerjoker]

i dont even know how to access HH sooooo I give lowdown
my 1st hand and 155 effective stacks I get KK without the K of clubs in BB

1 limper in MP
SB minraises to 4
I make it 12, both call

8c 9c xd flops SB checks to me who bets $30
MP calls
SB folds

Turn 9s

I push for ~100 more.





If you would take a different line tell me why.

[MINETZ]

raise a lot more pf, prolly to like 20, 8 more is not a raise.

[trumpman84]

The fact that MP1 called your bet and not SB is very concerning to me especially since the board paired the top card. Since your raise wasn't too big preflop, it's not out of the question that MP1 has a hand like T9s or A9s or 99, 88 or xx. The other likely hands for MP1 are a flush draw or straight draw. The problem with the push is that a flush draw and straight draw are going to fold most likely and you will only be called by the former hands. The 2nd problem is your stack size, if you bet any amount 1/2 the pot or over, you're pretty much committed to the hand. Checking behind can't be right on this board, so I'd probably push it in like you and roll the dice. Sure put yourself in a awkward position though.

[wdeadwyler]

How DO you access pokerroom hand histories?

[Benholio]

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How DO you access pokerroom hand histories?

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If you are playing the download version, there is a link on table for "Current hand: 13424134123" and/or "Previous Hand: 3523456234". This will bring up the HH in a web window.

Alternately, you can import you hands into PT (make sure statistics are turned on in PR client) and view them from PT.

I don't know if either of these things work with the no-download pokerroom client.

[Neil Stevens]

The link to previous hand is on the java applet version, too.

[Macquarie]

You're committed to going all the way with half your stack in. There's no way a big bet is going to make villain fold a winning hand. So you should get your money in the middle in the way that keeps the weakest hands in while charging the draws. I'd say bet $50.

Nothing you beat calls the push, so it can't be a good play here.

[Macquarie]

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The 2nd problem is your stack size, if you bet any amount 1/2 the pot or over, you're pretty much committed to the hand. Checking behind can't be right on this board, so I'd probably push it in like you and roll the dice.

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Just because you are committed doesn't necessarily mean the best play is to push now. If there was added fold-equity in the push I guess it would be the best play, but I don't see that here.

[pokerjoker]

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You're committed to going all the way with half your stack in. There's no way a big bet is going to make villain fold a winning hand. So you should get your money in the middle in the way that keeps the weakest hands in while charging the draws. I'd say bet $50.

Nothing you beat calls the push, so it can't be a good play here.

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So I bet $50? what do I do if he pushes? What if he Pushes on river when the flush hits?

[pokerjoker]

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raise a lot more pf, prolly to like 20, 8 more is not a raise.

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Can you elaborate on this possibly? I thought $12 would be a pot sized raise? Has it been your experience that a SB minraiser and a MP limper will call a 10x BB pf?