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Old 12-18-2005, 03:13 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
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Default Checking the turn against a Donkey LAG

When I first sat down, I was running over the Donkey LAG; winning lots of pots with good hands that went to showdown. Then he caught fire, and I made a series of 2nd bests. My image isn't that great, and I feel he's confident enough to do some weird stuff.

I know a turn bet is standard, but his combination of bluffs and legit turn donkbets seems almost optimal. Don't I just want to get to showdown?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Decent TAG raises</font>, LAG Donkey calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Decent TAG calls, LAG Donkey calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Decent TAG checks, LAG Donkey checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Decent TAG folds, LAG Donkey calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
LAG Donkey checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">LAG Donkey bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Edit: For more context, here's another hand against the same opponents.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Decent TAG raises</font>, LAG Donkey calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, CO calls, Button Decent TAG calls, LAG Donkey calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
LAG Donkey checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Decent TAG raises</font>, LAG Donkey calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Decent TAG folds, LAG Donkey calls.

Turn: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LAG Donkey checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, LAG Donkey calls.

River: (15 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
LAG Donkey checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, LAG Donkey calls.

Final Pot: 17 BB

Results:
LAG Donkey has 4s Kd (one pair, sixes).
Hero has Ks Kc (two pair, kings and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 17 BB.
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Old 12-18-2005, 04:22 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: Checking the turn against a Donkey LAG

Hand 1.

I couldn't recommend an action without having been at the table for a while and having a pretty good feel for the Donkey LAG. I could go either way depending on how Donkeyish I thought he was being at the moment and what I thought his image of me was at the moment. Very feel dependent, I think.
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