when is calling an all-in w/ 53o correct? (50+5)

[bigt439]

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I think SB is pushing any 2 here, right?

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Absolutley not. Most players don't understand that pushing any two here is correct. I say most of the time you're up against top 50% hands here. I believe that the call here is very bad. Your equity against what his range figures to be is rather poor. I haven't crunched the numbers, but I think it's negative chip EV. If we want to argue that it's chip EV neutral (it's not better than this), than it is still -$EV. Firstly, you are investing almost 1/3 of your stack to make the call, and by doing so lose a decent amount of FE (I don't really understand an argument against that), and leave yourself relatively short stacked (forcing you to make plays that have less EV than the plays you could otherwise make). Eliminating a player does not seem to be a huge concern for you right now, at least not enough of one to offset the cons of calling. The times you win with this hand also does not put you into great chip position, at least not good enough to take this risk. There are better spots to put money in with your stack. I would call a raise of t150 or less although I'd have to do some better estimation for a better figure.

[ir0nphist]

So then the consensus is, fold.
Even if the Villain pushes AKo face-up and I know I have odds to call, I should fold, mainly because of the hit I take to my future FE.
No one likes the added value of being seen as a loose caller?

thx for the feedback guys

[gildwulf]

The value of being shown as a loose caller is pretty limited when you have low fold equity. Also, this will probably be read as you are a loose player in general and your pushes will get less respect when you need the money.

[ir0nphist]

I actually just went back & checked the remainder of that sng. I only had my BB raised once out of 6 times after that call w/ 53o (I stopped counting once we got HU). The other 5 times it was folded around. So maybe there was some value to being seen as a loose caller? I know that personally, I hate to have a loose caller to my left as it really cuts down what I'm willing to push with.

FWIW, once I called w/ 53o villain showed J8o, board was no help & MHING. But I was then able to steal the very next hand once it was folded to me w/ A8o.