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Old 10-19-2005, 05:58 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

The Villan is a little loser then a solid player but not out of line (25/6.5/1.9 after 50 hands). For Absolute he's about an average player. Postflop he seems to take shots when he see's weakness but no one's called him on it yet so I can't tell if he's taking shots or has it. This is the first hand we've tangled. The table just lost some players so it's 7 handed.

Absolute (9 handed, 7 players) .50/1
Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero Raises, Button calls, 2 Folds

Preflop seems standard.

Flop: (5.5 sb) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls

Standard continuation bet w/ UI overs, BDFD, BDSD.

Turn: (3.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

My overs are cut to one and thought he might have hit that flush card. Plan was check/call if needed, like the check through. I know if I check any river at this point he will bet 90% because he's done it at every oportunity I've seen (4 total)

River: (3.5 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero?

I think the +EV play here is checking I think he will bet many hands I beat, but my flush is only ten high so I don't think I have value in c/r.

What do you guys think, help on any street is appreciated, would particularly like river advice and reasoning.
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

I think I would bet the river and think about folding to a raise. I really doubt he is going to be a hand that you beat, but I think he will call some hands that you don't beat (like pocket pairs, especially if he has a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img])
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

I think you have to bet here. He will call with any spade lower than a T
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

Would knowing that villian takes shots make you change your mind about folding to a raise? I think the way OP described villian would make me think he's raising any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

What's the secret to getting the converter to work with Absolute hand histories?
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

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What's the secret to getting the converter to work with Absolute hand histories?

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The secret is to write them up manually.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

[ QUOTE ]
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What's the secret to getting the converter to work with Absolute hand histories?

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The secret is to write them up manually.

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Got any other secrets? I'm far too lazy for this one.


Since I've screwed up this thread I guess I should comment on the hand:

If you think he's more likely to bluff than he is to call, I would check.

If you think he's more likely to call than bluff, I would bet.

If you're afraid he might checkraise bluff, I would check. (This player will likely bluff bet anyway, so you still win a bet.)
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What's the secret to getting the converter to work with Absolute hand histories?

[/ QUOTE ]
The secret is to write them up manually.

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Got any other secrets? I'm far too lazy for this one.


Since I've screwed up this thread I guess I should comment on the hand:

If you think he's more likely to bluff than he is to call, I would check.

If you think he's more likely to call than bluff, I would bet.

If you're afraid he might checkraise bluff, I would check. (This player will likely bluff bet anyway, so you still win a bet.)

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There are no other secrets as you can tell by the lack of sweet colors I did this by hand.

AS for the hand I think he is more likely to bluff deffinately so I was thinking check, but is there EV in raising his bluff.
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

I think c/r the river is probably a bad idea. I really think he value bets a bigger flush or a non-flush hand, and will check behind with something like 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
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Old 10-19-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Do you c/r, c/c or lead this river?

Just check/call...being 3-bet would suck.

(I think I'll come up with a macro to type that for me.)
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