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Old 09-27-2005, 09:33 AM
bocablkr bocablkr is offline
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Default Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

This may seem like a simple question but it is not. An Atheist believes that when he dies life is over. His existence is over - period. Therefore, he must make the most of his time here on earth. If he commits a serious crime and spends the rest of his life in prison he is screwed. His time on this planet is finite - why spend it in prison.

A Theist (if he believes in heaven and hell) is taught to be moral or else face eternal damnation. You would think this would make him more moral. But there is a caveat - if he accepts Jesus as his savior (Christian religion) then no matter what he did wrong in his life he can still go to heaven. Now I ask you - if I had a 'get out of jail free card' wouldn't I be more likely to be immoral than if I knew that my life is finite and should not be wasted in prison?
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Old 09-27-2005, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

What do you mean by moral? If you mean who will treat other people more fairly and reasonably, and behave towards others as they would have others behave towards them, then it's the Atheist and it's not close.

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Old 09-27-2005, 11:01 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

Again, depending on what your definition of morality is, I think there's really no difference between the two groups. One's religious beliefs and morality have nothing to do with each other. There are many christians who spend thier lives trying to help others, and there are many who are completely immoral. Same with athiests.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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What do you mean by moral? If you mean who will treat other people more fairly and reasonably, and behave towards others as they would have others behave towards them, then it's the Atheist and it's not close.

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A completely subjective answer to a completely subjective question. Good job.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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Again, depending on what your definition of morality is, I think there's really no difference between the two groups. One's religious beliefs and morality have nothing to do with each other. There are many christians who spend thier lives trying to help others, and there are many who are completely immoral. Same with athiests.

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If you read through many of the threads here there is often the supposition by the Theists that an Atheist can't be moral because he does not have an absolute reference point (god). They believe right and wrong comes from god and man can't determine that by himself. Obviously, from the poll so far many people disagree.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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What do you mean by moral? If you mean who will treat other people more fairly and reasonably, and behave towards others as they would have others behave towards them, then it's the Atheist and it's not close.

Mack

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A completely subjective answer to a completely subjective question. Good job.

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Old 09-27-2005, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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If you read through many of the threads here there is often the supposition by the Theists that an Atheist can't be moral because he does not have an absolute reference point (god).

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Wrong wrong wrong. No theist said that an atheist cant be moral.
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Old 09-27-2005, 11:59 AM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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If you read through many of the threads here there is often the supposition by the Theists that an Atheist can't be moral because he does not have an absolute reference point (god).

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Wrong wrong wrong. No theist said that an atheist cant be moral.

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Are you serious? There are many threads here where they question how can an Atheist be moral or even why he would want to be since he does not fear eternal damnation. Have you used the search function?
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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Obviously, from the poll so far many people disagree.

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10 so far.

The poll is what it is. The same poll posted on other forums is likely to have varying results. What theist is going to say that athiests are more moral and vice versa?
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Who would you expect to be more moral - an Atheist or a Theist?

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Are you serious?

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Yes.

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There are many threads here where they question how can an Atheist be moral or even why he would want to be since he does not fear eternal damnation.

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You obviously missed the point. A theist believes an atheist can act morally. In other words, an atheist can act in ways which I would agree are good and moral. Many do so. The issue is whether or not objective morality can exist without a divine source. That is not the same thing as being moral.

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Have you used the search function?

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Yes numerous times actually. Thanks for asking.
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