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Old 12-20-2005, 12:34 AM
Stuey Stuey is offline
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Default Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.

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We are getting off track.

The point of the thread is to discuss if that cactus hates jews and those people with flags are racist.

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Its like anything else. There is nothing inherently racist about any of it. Its how its used, and how its perceived.

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This is the only part of this thread that seemed important to me and I have read the whole mess twice.

Clearly some people will view these and other symbols as being racist. Now we just need to decide if it is enough people or enough of the important people or enough of the people with the power to do something about it that gets to have things their way.

I'm not saying this would be the right thing to do but it is the most likely.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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like i said...the advantages and luck that made this result possible will not change how southerns feel nor will it change our traditions
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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You driving through/staying a short time and seeing things here and making assumtions about our culture/way of life based on your education and what u have been told is about the worst thing u can do.

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I'm going to file this one under W for What The [censored]. Why is forming opinions from first hand experience the worst thing I can do? Because they're different from yours?


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Sure everyone has thier own thoughts...but u shouldnt be closed minded to the facts that others are trying to share about the issue.

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What have I been close-minded about?


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That flag means alot to everyone of the south

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Nope.


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...and will never be gotten rid of in any shape or form.

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Pretty bold claim.


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It stands for alot more than most of you will ever realize or ever research and places pride in the hearts of most southerns....that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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This one made me laugh.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: So I guess some people think symbols/posters should be banned.

08:32] <B_Dids> best thing about the flag thread so far
[08:32] <B_Dids> Voltron totally misusing the word "transparent"

Also-

From a discussion I had yesterday with Evan and Peachy.

The Confederate Flag has a MUCH different context depending on where it's flown. I might not bat an eye at it in GA, but in Washington State, somebody flying that flag is likely to be making a statement, or at least allowing people to make an assumption of their views on race that won't be very charitable.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:38 AM
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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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I just want to say that this is one of the best quotes I've ever seen. I've always thought highly of you, but this puts you in a whole new class. Well done, buddy.

Edit to say that if someone puts this on a bumper sticker I'll buy at least a dozen, and I don't even own a car.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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like i said...the advantages and luck that made this result possible will not change how southerns feel nor will it change our traditions

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btw peachy, you are logged into aim if you didnt notice...
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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like i said...the advantages and luck that made this result possible will not change how southerns feel nor will it change our traditions

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so you guys are adamant on remaining stupid inbreds?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:44 AM
Clarkmeister Clarkmeister is offline
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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like i said...the advantages and luck that made this result possible will not change how southerns feel nor will it change our traditions

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You can go to the sample size argument all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the south got totally pwn3d.

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Old 12-20-2005, 12:44 AM
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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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like i said...the advantages and luck that made this result possible will not change how southerns feel nor will it change our traditions

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Can I still submit this for POTY?
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Controversy over symbols and racism .

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that u can never take away - not even with a victory in a war.

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The North not only won, they covered the spread.

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I just want to say that this is one of the best quotes I've ever seen. I've always thought highly of you, but this puts you in a whole new class. Well done, buddy.

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The union army lost 360,000 men which was 50% more than the confederate army. They were better equipped, better armed, baracaded the south with it's navy, and had twice as many men but still took massive beatings in many battles. Yes, they did win, but it wasn't a shut out by any means.

I thought this was a pretty lousy quote.
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