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Old 12-31-2005, 02:31 AM
masse75 masse75 is offline
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Default My weakness...middle pairs

OK, I've lurked and made comments here for just a bit, and I figure it's about time I set myself up for some abuse.

History about me--taking a small break from real cash games (lots of personal stuff going on, moving/new job), plus I think I need to study A LOT more before stepping back in.

Anyway, your thoughts on this hand--I have a pretty good idea of what it is, but let 'er rip:

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Absolute Limit Hold'em Ring - $0.50/$1 Stakes (9 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Button ($18.25)
Seat 2: Small blind ($14.35)
Seat 3: Big blind (Hero) ($37.25)
Seat 4: UTG ($19.65)
Seat 5: UTG+1 ($49.60)
Seat 6: MP1 ($13.25)
Seat 7: MP2 ($5.80)
Seat 8: LP ($50.60)
Seat 9: CO ($25.90)

Preflop: Hero is Big blind with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 raises, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Small blind calls, Hero calls

Flop: (5.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Small blind checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets, Small blind folds, Hero calls

Turn: (3.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls

River: (5.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: $7.6

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Old 12-31-2005, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

You're not giving yourself any info by calling down every street. A bet or even c/r on this flop is a better line. I c/r might even get you a free turn card. If you get re-raised, fold and move on.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:38 AM
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I would 3-bet preflop with 99 here. Then I lead out this flop. If he raises, I call, fold turn UI. (I would check/call picking up that OESD, fold the river.)

Edit: The way you played it, all you know is he either has an Ace, a pocket pair greater than 7, or clubs. That's kind of not enough information.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

Given the way you played this hand preflop, I'd just check/fold the flop.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:05 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

Check folding this flop is fine.

If you don't want to give it up so easily you can lead and fold to a raise.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:31 AM
kleinstadt1 kleinstadt1 is offline
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

Preflop is fine.

Fold the flop, unless you're putting him on KQs.

Might have the odds to call the turn (I figure 10 outs with the pot laying you 4.75:1, you'll probably be able to CR the river and make up two bets).

Fold the river.
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:42 AM
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3-bet preflop
Hand plays differently after that
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:44 AM
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The way you played it, all you know is he either has an Ace, a pocket pair greater than 7, or clubs. That's kind of not enough information.

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Um, he could have lots of hands and just keep betting out to pretend he hit that ace.
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Old 12-31-2005, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

If he has reasonable raising standards, I think you're an underdog on the flop. If you want to take a shot at it, take the lead so you can fold early to a raise and save some bets. I think a Kx hand will usually fold to a turn bet. I'm not sure what your river line would be if he calls the turn.
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Old 12-31-2005, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: My weakness...middle pairs

The advice given here is too aggressive IMO, 99 is not a 3-betting hand out of the BB against a MP1 raise. You are OOP in the hand, there is no reason to bloat the pot pre flop. This is a check fold on the flop against most players.
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