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#143
12-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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Re: An Army story
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first of all whether or not the debate i am having in this thread is based on hpothetical information or real events does not really matter anymore b/c i am debating with people's acual thoughts on a subject, whether or not the subject happened is arbitrary. so like who the [censored] cares. you don't have to keep repeating yourself. second of all you are really naive if you think a person isn't a child molester when they have in their possession polariods, not pics printed of the net, but [censored] polariods of a little girl with her bald vagina exposed. i have taken plenty of psych classes to understand that this could actually only be the tip of the iceburg when it comes to harm done to children with this guy. your comment reeks of naivety. [/ QUOTE ] First, I'm really impressed that you took "plenty of psych classes". Did any of them deal with the difference between reality and fantasy? Second, how did you discover they were "polariods, not pics printed of the net, but [censored] polariods"? Polaroids??? Quite a vivid imagination you have. Even if this were true, it in no way indicates Dan was a "child molester". Third, "i would have pistol whipped the [censored] in front of everyone for touching defenseless little girls and then videotaping it." Where did this idea come from (since it has nothing to do with anything we know of Dan from the story)? Fourth, I would be naive if I believed you were capable of pistol whipping anyone. Fifth, I apologize for trying to impose facts on your little hypothetical information debate. Keeping it real, Born 2 Loose p.s. In case you're interested in my views on the actual topic, here is my original post in this thread: [ QUOTE ] My random thoughts from the thread: dick move - yes world is a better place without him - yes murderer - no way you meet the weirdest people in the military - yes you meet the greatest people in the military - yes lots of elements of Jarhead in this story - yes I think it's a true story - yes Peace Brother [/ QUOTE ] 
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#145
12-09-2005, 07:18 PM
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Re: An Army story
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My random thoughts from the thread: dick move - yes world is a better place without him - yes murderer - no way you meet the weirdest people in the military - yes you meet the greatest people in the military - yes lots of elements of Jarhead in this story - yes I think it's a true story - yes Peace Brother [/ QUOTE ] my exact thoughts as well. so why on earth are you argueing, b/c you just feel the need to? would it matter if they were polaroids or if they were kiddie porn pics of the net? would it matter if it were pics of the net of videos? in my mind no it wouldn't. he is a pedophile with the potential to be a child molester and in my book that makes him harmful to society therefore a "child molester," you can defend that all you want but that's what i am going to think. you can have your opinion and thats fine but why argue with mine? pedophilia is a condition in which an adult has a desire for children. a child molester is when the person takes action upon that desire, we don't have proof of that, you are right. but you give a pedophile long enough he will become a child molester, it is the process. i desire adult women so i seek them because they satisfy that desire, well kids satisfy his desire so its only time till they are in danger if not already in danger. to me a pedophile and a child molester are one in the same.
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#146
12-09-2005, 07:50 PM
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Re: An Army story
Sorry, I'm chillin' now.
My group of friends always get in big heated arguments over stuff, almost come to mixin it up, sometimes do, and then sober up [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] You're right, we do fundamentaly agree on Dan.
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#147
12-09-2005, 08:13 PM
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Re: An Army story
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Second, how did you discover they were "polariods, not pics printed of the net, but [censored] polariods"? Polaroids??? Quite a vivid imagination you have. Even if this were true, it in no way indicates Dan was a "child molester". [/ QUOTE ] To continue the nitty tone of this thread, they were polaroids. Yes, [censored] polaroids. Polaroids!!! I'm not sure how you came to a conclusion otherwise but fidelity and close attention to the text will pay rich rewards. regards, raisins
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#149
12-09-2005, 10:38 PM
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The biggest dick move got me thinking and I hadn't remembered this for a long time. I don't really think it classifies as a dick move although probably not the best decisions were made. When I was stationed in Korea I shared a room with 3 guys one of them one of them Brian, was really cool and my best friend, the other dan was really weird and not cool. one time me brian and another friend mccalin came into the room and dan quickly went into the bathroom and then after a brief amount of time took off. Well a few minutes later I notice there is one of my movies in my VCR. My TV/VCR is set up directly across from bed in a way which can only be viewed by sitting on my bed. I look at the movie and it was like some horror movie I had and Mclain chimes in with "I bet he was beating off on your bed and its at the shower scene" well I pop the movie in and low and behold its on the [censored] shower scene. This is disturbing to me. Well we get to talking and one thing leads to another and we start to wonder about old Dan. So we search his locker which he didnt lock it, Im gueessing from being in such a hurry. First thing we find is stack of old porn magazines no big deal. Next thing we find are some photographs. Now not just any photographs but pics of a young girl probably 12ish sitting on some steps in shorts. only she has the shorts pulled inward at the groin so you can see here bare pussy. well now we're at a whole another level. next we find a unmarked video tape. we play it. scene one - is of 3 girls being filmed in what looks like a hotel swimming pool from behind some bushes. it lasts for about 10 minutes. scene 2 starts in the dark. then the person holding the camera obviously turns on a flash light and what do we see. A rather large woman sleeping on a couch under a blanket. Well mr. cameraman slowly lifts away the blanket revealing a now completely naked rather large middle aged woman. it doesnt stop there oh no. the camera an seemingly puts the flashlight in his mouth and starts to play with what we assume is passed out naked rather large middle aged woman. this goes on for 2-5 minutes tops. scene 3 starts with our roommate Dan sitting on a large bed, being filmed. He then quickly pulls down his shors and beats off right there on camera. He finishes in some toilet paper with some very animated facial expressions, pulls up his shorts and turns the camera off. well we don't really know what to do at this point. tell our superiors? do nothing? give him [censored]? oh no. we take it to a next level. now most Army barracks will have what is called a rec room which is basically a unit family room with usually a large TV, VCR and something like a pool table. now in korea with nothing much to do people love to watch movies and will pop anything in that old VCR. so we head on down and when nobody is looking put that thing smack dad on top of the VCR, fast forwarded right to scene 3. It's a Saturday so just about everyone is on free time. well what do you know but not 4 hours later there is a big commotion a brewing and the tape is being played again and again while more and more people are being brought in. well it turns out this probably wasnt the best idea as not two days later Dan killed himself. [/ QUOTE ] I haven't read the entire thread, so sorry if this has been said, but... This seems like a modified version of what happened in Jarhead.
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#150
12-09-2005, 11:09 PM
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Re: An Army story
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I haven't read the entire thread, so sorry if this has been said, but... This seems like a modified version of what happened in Jarhead. [/ QUOTE ] I haven't seen the movie or read the book yet and all I can do is say it's entirely legit. My guess would be that dudes suffering sometype of humilation combined with some mental illness or depression is more likely to happen in the military than in other walks of life.
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