$55: Interesting trend I've noticed recently

[MegaBet]

Early in the game, people calling prefop raises with mid-pairs and calling a flop bluff-push with 2-3 overcards on the board.

I asked why they called with 4th pair, and their reply was "you bet too much". This happened to me in 3 of my games last night (all in the same set), and happened quite a few time to other players. I had not played these players before, so they can't have had a read on me.

Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe this can be turned around and pushing monsters early become the best way to extract maximun value? I'm just thinking out loud.

[JJKillian]

I noticed this when I first started to adapt to the 55's a few months back. I overbet with higher hands just for that reason at this lvl in the 55's. It seems to work well in the 100's as well.

JJ

[fnord_too]

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I had not played these players before,

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There's a reason for that.

[jeffraider]

Why are you bluffpushing early in the game?

[KingDan]

I've been value-pushing quite a bit early and seen some ridiculous calls.

[Lucid1]

I'm the guy who made a couple of those ridiculous calls [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

I'm new in the 55s, and have made a couple of calls from pushers who I mistakenly was hoping were just overagressive and making silly bluffs.

Some dude went all-in with the nuts on the flop against me in a mini-pot, and I called with top pair, medium kicker and felt pretty stupid [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[JJKillian]

shorty after I responded to this post I had this come up.

#Game No : 2818631494
***** Hand History for Game 2818631494 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16294753 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, October 03, 15:31:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 11776 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: thenigel ( $985 )
Seat 2: JJD925 ( $1035 )
Seat 3: Stewe81 ( $725 )
Seat 4: RipUinDaEye ( $985 )
Seat 5: deagan20 ( $1420 )
Seat 6: kobi50111 ( $1000 )
Seat 7: gsassin01 ( $1000 )
Seat 8: ratisse ( $990 )
Seat 9: TaylormadeTM ( $985 )
Seat 10: JJKillian ( $875 )
Trny:16294753 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JJKillian [ As Ad ]
kobi50111 raises [45].
gsassin01 folds.
ratisse calls [45].
TaylormadeTM folds.
JJKillian raises [150].
thenigel calls [150].
JJD925 folds.
Stewe81 folds.
RipUinDaEye folds.
deagan20 folds.
kobi50111 folds.
ratisse calls [105].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 4h, Ks ]
ratisse checks.
JJKillian is all-In [725]
thenigel calls [725].
ratisse folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
JJKillian shows [ As, Ad ] a full house, Aces full of kings.
thenigel shows [ Qc, Qd ] two pairs, kings and queens.
JJKillian wins 1970 chips from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of kings.

I would have to do some serious crunching, but I truly think in these spots I make more than I give up to the folds. And for some reason it seems to work better in the 55's than any other lvl.

JJ

[microbet]

I hope people keep posting about this. I have tried it at various levels, without really keeping track, and have had mixed results.

[JJKillian]

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I hope people keep posting about this. I have tried it at various levels, without really keeping track, and have had mixed results.

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like you I have not really kept track. But like the hand I posted where there is a flush draw out one or two things seems to happen to me when I make this play in lvl 1.

1. I get called by top pair or higher pp thinking I am on the draw.

2. I get called by the draw.

obviously there are more, but those seem to be the 2 most commons things I see when I get called.

JJ

[MegaBet]

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I hope people keep posting about this. I have tried it at various levels, without really keeping track, and have had mixed results.

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I'm glad people find value in the threads I start [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

And JJKillian, thanks for your examples. Seems like the push with a monster really pays off. I've tried this today with a lot of success.