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Old 12-13-2005, 05:34 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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hi phish, do you think R! calls this flop with 66?
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:50 PM
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i like the turn checkcall and i agree with not donking the river, thats just silly but i think a checkfold could be considered, no?

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definitely can't c/f this river, however, i would'nt 3bet preflop, you're out of position and not ahead of much. i would call pf, c/c, c/r turn
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:53 PM
Danenania Danenania is offline
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Default Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions

I really like it. Nice line to add to the repertoire. Would you play AJ the same?
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Old 12-13-2005, 05:54 PM
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nice hand.

I think calling PR and playing fit or fold also has merits. Would you also 3 bet ATo?

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Old 12-13-2005, 06:05 PM
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hi phish, do you think R! calls this flop with 66?

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I would. Especially if I think I can play my opponent off JJ.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:38 PM
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He has to put you on a big Ace or PP after your preflop 3-bet. He knows he can't bluff you out of an Ace on this river and that you would have folded (or would fold) a PP on the turn/river. If he sees your turn check-call as a picked up flush draw then he knows his hand is no good. Basically, it seems that Raise! has no reason to bet this river unless he's fairly strong.

I think it's a check-fold.

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Sometimes people bet when they shouldn't. That's the whole point of checking and calling.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:46 AM
Schneids Schneids is offline
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Default Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions

BTW, Raise! had KQ. I think check/call is right because he'll bet any ace on the river, and any big king will probably be bet too. Plus against good players even if it gets checked through on the river and he sees how I played TP I think that works out ok because playing OOP vs good players is going to help me get more free showdowns and tone down their value betting standards, and may help me win pots that way. I'd rather be spraying chips against players who I have a decent EV edge vs and who are not as competent.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:58 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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youre gonna get shown Axs here enough to make it worth c/ring the river, but your feel for the game is better, maybe these guys are folding A6s utg? i doubt it, but you make the call.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:31 AM
etizzle etizzle is offline
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Default Re: Checking and Calling my way to millions

this guy in particular definitley folds A6s and A7s UTG, and maybe A8s
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:35 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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"this guy in particular definitley folds A6s and A7s UTG, and maybe A8s"

ok well then schneids is in a very thin spot and should fold preflop, and it's not really close at all. or your assessment of utg is wrong. it's one or the other. 6 handed game. im guessing schneids is not wrong. were you utg?
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