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Old 12-09-2005, 11:10 AM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default The Fourth Raise is Always Aces? Or, Should I Fold KK Preflop?

There's been a rash of posts in the last few days asking if KK should ever be folded preflop.

Recently I remember either reading or hearing some famous TV player (I don't recall who or where) say unequivocally that a fourth preflop raise is always aces.

At these stakes, this is not true. The fourth raise could be a much wider range of hands.

Please don't create a post asking if you should fold kings preflop. The answer is, "no" and your post will probably be flamed by the SSNL community whose patience is running thin with posts like these.

I'll leave this stickied briefly.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:26 AM
theblitz theblitz is offline
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Default Re: The Fourth Raise is Always Aces? Or, Should I Fold KK Preflop?

Since I was one of the guilty parties I think I will add the following simple check.

I executed the following SQL command on my PT database:

[ QUOTE ]
select count(*)
from
(select game_id from game_players where player_id = 72 and hole_cards = 'KK') g1,
(select game_id from game_players where hole_cards = 'AA') g2
where g1.game_Id = g2.game_id

[/ QUOTE ]

This tells me how many times my KK has come up against AA.

For a total of 405 KK (that I got from PT) I have come up against AA only 9 (yes, NINE) times.

I think that finally kills off the "should I fold" threads.

New Year Resolution: I am not posting any more of them.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:30 AM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: The Fourth Raise is Always Aces? Or, Should I Fold KK Preflop?

Thanks, theblitz. Your NY resolution will pay off in the end.
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