This Ought To Get Some Replies

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http://www.narth.com/docs/normalization.html

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NARTH - National Association for Reasearch and Therapy of Homosexuality.

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Blacks are normal. Homosexuals are normal. I don't care what Dr. Ihatefags says -- he's an ignorant moron too.

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Homosexuals are normal.

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Let's play a little game...tell me where in this list things stop being 'normal'

People with a foot fetish
People with ADHD
People with a vomit fetish
People with dyslexia
People with personality disorders
People who get off on scat porn
Middle aged men who like to be dressed up in nappies and spanked (I know you're reading this mr. Skalansky, you naughty boy).
People with schizophrenia
People who can't get an orgasm without choking themselves during the act.
People who partake in consensual cannabalism (of deceased carcasses)

[Shandrax]

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I don't care what Dr. Ihatefags says -- he's an ignorant moron too.

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Be ignorance thy choice, where knowledge leads to woe.

[mapen]

The above post resembles the philospohy of General Nathan Bedford Forest.

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Homosexuals are normal.

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Let's play a little game...tell me where in this list things stop being 'normal'

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I'll answer after you do:

People with Asymetrical facial features
People with Blonde hair
People with Detached earlobes
People with Left-handedness
People with Color-blindness
People with Type O- blood

PS: Just because something isn't "common" doesn't mean it's not "normal".

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PS: Just because something isn't "common" doesn't mean it's not "normal".

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http://www.devbio.com/article.php?id=169

you should kill yourself. racism is out of style now, pops.

[Riverman]

I think the best treatment if this topic was done by Herrnstein and Murray in the Bell Curve. The book was very controversial but ultimately rooted in complex research and careful reasoning. Kind of sad though.

All that needs to be said is that a major factor in the IQ of a new born child is the genetics he inherits from his parents.

If a brilliant white man and a brilliant black woman have a child, there is an excellent chance that child will have a very high IQ and be extremely intelligent.

With this said, if a particular race already has a higher overall IQ (and this has already been tested) then it follows that the offspring of this race will ALWAYS retain the higher IQ based on genetics.

Someone made a point earlier about different breeds of dogs, and I think it is exactly the same here. Some dogs are more athletic than others and other dogs are much more intelligent than others. I see no reason why this cannot also be true in humans.

[Rduke55]

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All that needs to be said is that a major factor in the IQ of a new born child is the genetics he inherits from his parents.

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Pre and postnatal nutrition, enrichment, etc. play no role?

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With this said, if a particular race already has a higher overall IQ (and this has already been tested)

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There are some flaws in those studies you are referring to.

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then it follows that the offspring of this race will ALWAYS retain the higher IQ based on genetics.

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Again, IQ is not just genetics.

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Someone made a point earlier about different breeds of dogs, and I think it is exactly the same here. Some dogs are more athletic than others and other dogs are much more intelligent than others. I see no reason why this cannot also be true in humans.

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While it may be a cute analogy, you do see large differences between race of humans and breed of dog, don't you? While you can imagine a reproductively isolated group of people where they are selected for mathematical reasoning, etc. could eventually develop into a breed of Sklanskys, there are major, major differences with that and the evolutionary history of the races. Each race (if you can even define them) has elements of it that have evolved in wildly different niches with wildly different selection pressures (I'm reminded of the east africa/west africa running skills post in the race and athleticism thread) and there has been a large amount of confounding factors (outbreeding, culture, etc.) that really ruin the analogy.

Do genetics play a role in nonpathological intelligence differences? Most likely. Can you apply these genetic differences to race? No way.