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Old 05-19-2005, 01:22 AM
gharp gharp is offline
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Default Suited flops w/low card of suit

How do we handle this situation?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ...?
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: Suited flops w/low card of suit

I fold.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:25 AM
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easy fold.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:31 AM
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I'm outta there.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:37 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: Suited flops w/low card of suit

I'm just going to change this scenario to make it more interesting....

Cards : 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Preflop:

UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero (Button) calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

All check to you. What do you do?
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:38 AM
Buckmulligan Buckmulligan is offline
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Default Re: Suited flops w/low card of suit

[ QUOTE ]
I'm just going to change this scenario to make it more interesting....

Cards : 5 5

Preflop:

UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero (Button) calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3 A Q

All check to you. What do you do?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm still almost folding.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:40 AM
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I'm still almost folding.

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Yeah - I think I'm with you [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:47 AM
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Default Re: Suited flops w/low card of suit

Nice - I was going to post something like this too.

So assuming you check, the turn card is a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and there's mild action (say one bet, one call, two folds). Do you call down? And what's the cutoff? 8 of suit? 9?

(FWIW, I folded in the original hand too.)
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Old 05-19-2005, 02:30 AM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Suited flops w/low card of suit

[ QUOTE ]
I'm just going to change this scenario to make it more interesting....

Cards : 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Preflop:

UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero (Button) calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

All check to you. What do you do?

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm willing to take a stab at it here if the table is weak or passive. It's probably a close to neutral EV play *IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE* as long as you're bet-folding. In an aggressive game, it's an easy check.
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