Bottom set to FH -- Weak or Smart?

tor · #1 07-14-2005, 12:27 AM

BB is Tight/weak
UTG+2 no read, never seen him before

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (9 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, CO folds, BB 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (19.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 22.50 BB

Online247 · #2 07-14-2005, 12:35 AM

You missed two bets on the turn. If you did cap the turn and BB still led the river, calling might not be that bad of an idea.

DownUnder · #3 07-14-2005, 12:36 AM

Cap the turn.

Having just called, raise the river. You'll be leaving a lot of money on the table if you make a habit of calling this down.

DU

Dave G. · #4 07-14-2005, 02:18 AM

Cap the turn. Cap the river. There is NO reason not to cap both streets here. You will win almost all the time. Anyone not capping this river needs to put away their skirt.

If you run into a bigger boat, oh well. It's not going to happen often. It's much more likely BB has a naked T. You also have another opponent padding the pot for you. You could have picked up a lot more bets here.

Way too weak.

TomBrooks · #5 07-14-2005, 02:30 AM

Cap the turn. Raise the river. I have a couple of questions for you. Did you think about this hand while you were playing it? Did you think about this hand after you played it but before you posted it?

NDHand · #6 07-14-2005, 02:54 AM

easy, EASY turn cap

SoftcoreRevolt · #7 07-14-2005, 03:07 AM

You don't even have bottom set here, you have middle set, and are almost definately ahead. Only TT, T6 and T3 beat you, and each of these is VERY unlikely in this circumstance.

You beat a huge range of hands on this board, raise raise raise. Slow down somewhere on the river if he keeps coming.

arsixsixwy · #8 07-14-2005, 03:49 AM

You have zero reason to slow down here at any point. Bet. Raise. 3-bet. Cap. If you're beat, which I'm assuming you are since you're even posting this hand, sorry. That's poker. The overwhelming amount of the time, you have your opponents drawing dead on the flop and drawing dead-ish (giving the weak/tight BB credit for a T at this point) on the turn. This is not even close. BET LOTS!

I suppose if you had some unbelievable read (and I mean something to the effect of "does not 3-bet without quads"), you could just take the river to three bets and not cap.

But you don't.

So bet lots. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

trainslayer · #9 07-14-2005, 07:05 AM

I think capping the turn would have given you a better idea of how weak bb was. If he leads the river I'd probably just call.

tor · #10 07-14-2005, 11:22 AM

Yeah, that's exactly what I thought as I raked in the pot. Not, "Go me." [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]