Do I need to pay this off??

[TomBrooks]

RIVER: I would fold.

PS: PREFLOP: I also fold A9o unless I'm first in from MP on which I raise.

[Monty Cantsin]

I frequently raise A9 after one limper. I would say more often than not.

/mc

[Entity]

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I frequently raise A9 after one limper. I would say more often than not.

/mc

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If by frequently you mean almost always, I would agree.

I like the river fold.

Rob

[Womble]

Why are we folding this river? I am confused here? His agression isnt abnormally low so he could have an ace. Is the 9 kicker the problem here? I need same reasoning since this may be a leak of mine.

[Monty Cantsin]

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Why are we folding this river?

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First of all, we aren't necessarily folding here. jba wanted to know if he could fold, which means "given what we know is a call required here?"

What would make this call obligatory is if we expect to be winning here substantially more than 1 times out of 10.

I happen to think we are winning here a bit less than 1 times out of 10. But somewhere around 1 in 10 seems reasonable. So it doesn't really matter if we call or fold, and we're free to do either one based on meta-stuff or whatever sick whim our brain cooks up for us (btw whims can be excellent pattern mappers so it could be jba's desire to fold is indicative of a deeper read on this player that his conscious mind was not aware of).

The thing that makes his raise a little more believable to me here is the pre-flop raise, flop check, turn bet, which diagrams A-big very strongly. I don't expect unknowns to expect unknowns to fold an Ace.

Btw, I would be much more likely to call here with AQ or AK.

/mc

[jba]

"(btw whims can be excellent pattern mappers so it could be jba's desire to fold is indicative of a deeper read on this player that his conscious mind was not aware of). "

in my semidrunken state i'm taking that as a compliemant

[Monty Cantsin]

Intended.

/mc

[Monty Cantsin]

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If by frequently you mean almost always, I would agree.


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In that case, that's exactly what I meant.

/mc