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Old 07-28-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Do you like this push?

Everyone limps, figure I don't see much strength and I have some nice fold equity. Even if I get called, I can assume its a coinflip. Do you push here?

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 6: HERO ( $875 )
Seat 2: tuffy15055 ( $3675 )
Seat 3: Snosrf ( $2625 )
Seat 4: utefan_76 ( $825 )

Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 4d 4c ]
tuffy15055 calls [100].
Snosrf calls [100].
utefan_76 calls [50].
HERO is all-In [775]
tuffy15055 calls [775].
Snosrf folds.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

No
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:39 PM
Bigdaddydvo Bigdaddydvo is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

I experimented with this move the other day by pushing w/55 after a bunch of limpers and was called by an A8o or something (I lost the race). In retrospect, it was probably a poor move.

I like playing your low pair for set value much more. If you hit that 4, you can win substantially more than by gambling for what's in the pot PF.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:48 PM
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

Playing for set value is free. Free is good.
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Old 07-28-2005, 10:51 PM
Quercus Quercus is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

Big stack can call and lose and still have a dominating stack. Your stack needs to be more of a threat to him to make this move.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:43 PM
Ogre Ogre is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

I'm all for pushing in the bb after limpers but i like to check here and play it for trips
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:54 PM
iMsoLucky0 iMsoLucky0 is offline
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

I think this is a very standard push. [censored] set value with those blinds and that stack on the bubble. Move it in and try and double or pick up a 30% increase to your stack. Who cares if you get called?
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

No.
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Old 07-28-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

My thoughts exactly.

I will only hit a set once every 8 trys. I have good fold equity (6BB raise), and since none of them showed any strength it might just work. If I get called, I am either a slight favorit or a huge dog. I think the former would be the case with most calls.

Anyone esle agree with my reasoning for the push? Or should I learn from this and not do it agian? I am trying to learn here people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RESULTS: I push, big stack calls, I win the coinflip, double up and coast into the money.
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Old 07-29-2005, 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Do you like this push?

[ QUOTE ]
My thoughts exactly.

I will only hit a set once every 8 trys. I have good fold equity (6BB raise), and since none of them showed any strength it might just work. If I get called, I am either a slight favorit or a huge dog. I think the former would be the case with most calls.

Anyone esle agree with my reasoning for the push? Or should I learn from this and not do it agian? I am trying to learn here people [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

RESULTS: I push, big stack calls, I win the coinflip, double up and coast into the money.

[/ QUOTE ]
I think it works. UTG, Button, and SB really don't have a lot here. Of course, they'll call some of that trash, especially when you pick up t400 sitting dead when they all fold.

I do this 100% of the time, and I think it's correct.
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