Optimal VPIP and PFR% for 6-max NL ring?

[anacrime]

What is the optimal VPIP and PFR% to have in 6-max NL ring games?

My stats after 50k hands is 27,9%. I think my VPIP should be much, much lower. Any thoughts?

[xorbie]

Probably around 20/7 if you're not too confident in your postflop play.

The real answer is that your VPIP and PFR are going to be different depending on the texture of the game you are in. 6-max games come in all flavors, and the best way to profit is to play in a manner that's opposite the general trend of the table. LAGGY play with lots of continuation betting will enable you to crush the tight/passive games. However, TAGGY play and simply betting your solid holdings for value is what will get you the money in the loose/aggressive games.

While I don't think these should serve as a guideline, if you want to see the stats for a profitable 4-tabler, my stats for 4 tabling 6-max games at Party Poker are the following:

$25NL: Hands = 30570
VPIP = 26.49%
PFR = 14.30%
BB/100 = 10.58

$100NL: Hands = 55430
VPIP = 22.22%
PFR = 14.10%
BB/100 = 4.41

As you can see, I play LAGGY in these games. As the other poster said, solid postflop play is a must.

[stu-unger]

the funny thing about 6max is that a lot of styles can be winning styles. i have a VPIP of ~21% because i am a supa nit and i have a healthy winrate. i have seen thinking lags around ~30-35% that are winning players also. i think it really comes down to what u r comfortable with and where your strengths lie.

[Malachii]

I think tight and solid is really the easiest way to beat these games... it's much easier to multi table. Incidentally, I don't mean to thread jack, but do most 6max players 4 table? I usually play 2 6max games and 2 ring games... 4 tabling 6max is intense.

[Lucky]

I cant four table 6 max very well, but many do. I can play 2 ring and 2 (6 max) fairly comfortably once i've been there ahile and gotten acclimated.

Ideally, i'd probably stick with 3 tables, 2 short and one full.

[xorbie]

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I think tight and solid is really the easiest way to beat these games... it's much easier to multi table. Incidentally, I don't mean to thread jack, but do most 6max players 4 table? I usually play 2 6max games and 2 ring games... 4 tabling 6max is intense.

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I play at least 4 6 max tables and 4 full ring ones, sometimes a couple more 6 max tables, sometimes the six max tables will also get down to 4 handed or so, in which case it can get a bit intense.

[whittiphil]

Playing at a low level (NL25), I've 5 tabled 6max and felt ok doing it... I regularly 4table and don't have any big problems. I use Poker Ace HUD.

VPIP of 20, pfr of 6. I can't raise more hands profitably yet...

[Lucky]

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Probably around 20/7 if you're not too confident in your postflop play.

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This is right on, especially if you're going to 4 table.

[Jocke_F]

I am averaging 25% VP$IP and 10% PFR but like Tony said this variates quite big depending on the table I am at.