Domestic spying is about politics, not security

cardcounter0 · #1 12-27-2005, 02:26 PM

How about Gov. Bill Richardson himself? He seems to be taking it seriously.

New Mexico Newspaper

#2 12-27-2005, 02:38 PM

From your link...

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An online journalist then speculated that Richardson's conversations with former Secretary of State Colin Powell and another U.S. official about North Korea might have been among Bolton's requests.

"The governor is upset that his conversations with Secretary Powell would be intercepted since most of them were domestic calls," said Richardson spokesman Billy Sparks. "The governor felt his calls about North Korea were confidential."

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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

#3 12-27-2005, 02:43 PM

Feel free to attack the source since the information is probobly correct and completely damning to your dear leader.

#4 12-27-2005, 02:55 PM

FWIW I think the Bush administration is utterly incompetent.

If you had used Ann Coulter as a source I would have made the same post.

cardcounter0 · #5 12-27-2005, 02:44 PM

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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

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And like I said, it looks like Richardson is taking it seriously. But he was only involved with negotiations with North Korea, so what would he know?

#6 12-27-2005, 02:59 PM

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It looks like Richardson is getting his info from the OP's source.

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And like I said, it looks like Richardson is taking it seriously. But he was only involved with negotiations with North Korea, so what would he know?

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So if enough people quote the same bad source for info it's OK?

You must then believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al-Qaida.

cardcounter0 · #7 12-27-2005, 03:02 PM

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You must then believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al-Qaida.

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No, can you name one intelligent person who takes this claim seriously and believes it to be true?

#8 12-27-2005, 03:17 PM

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You must then believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al-Qaida.

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No, can you name one intelligent person who takes this claim seriously and believes it to be true?

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No, that was my point. Intelligent people need to see credible evidence to form opinions.

Has the Bush administration used the NSA to spy on it's political rivals? I don't know and I will need a better source of info than Wayne Madsen to believe it has. The OP apparently feels differently.

cardcounter0 · #9 12-27-2005, 03:28 PM

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No, that was my point. Intelligent people need to see credible evidence to form opinions.

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And as I will point out AGAIN: a credible evidence to the truth of the matter is GOV BILL RICHARDSON IS TAKING IT SERIOUSLY.

You didn't hear the Gov laugh it off and say, "What a nut case! What a crazy theory!"

No, what I think he said was, "I know George Bush, I've met him, and that slimey group surounding him is perfectly capable of something like this."

So like I said, did anyone take the Saddam/Terrorist claims seriously? That is evidence that they were false. People in the know ignored them.

Hey! Those lies came from the same group of people you are so ready to trust being able to spy without oversight.

#10 12-27-2005, 03:21 PM

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You must then believe Saddam Hussein had ties to Al-Qaida.

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No, can you name one intelligent person who takes this claim seriously and believes it to be true?

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Don't let 'em divert the theme of this thread. Bush is using Nioxian tactics to consolidate his power, checks and balances be damned.

This is what we know, imagine what we don't know.