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#21
12-09-2005, 09:20 PM
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Re: JTo.
[ QUOTE ] AJs maybe, but even then I think it's pushing it with turn action. [/ QUOTE ] How is AJs pushing it with the turn action? The flop was checked through and you raised a min-bet on the turn. What makes you think villain is scared of a full house.The more aggressively you've been playing,the easier the river bet becomes. He might have other Axs hands which will call a 1/2 pot river bet. From villain's perspective you could easily be bluffing on the river because he has played the hand so weak. 
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#22
12-09-2005, 09:27 PM
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Re: JTo.
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Straights beat two pair, yes? [/ QUOTE ] Correct, so a King or an 8 does not make 6 outs against me. What am I missing? [ QUOTE ] How is AJs pushing it with the turn action? [/ QUOTE ] In regard to him calling a decent bet on the river, I do not think AJs calls there too often from this player, is what I am saying. Also, does AJs limp UTG from VPIP 11? When I had a VPIP of like 12 I never did this.
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#25
12-09-2005, 10:22 PM
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Re: JTo.
I said a king or an eight has three outs against you. You said they have zero, and then bring up six outs which is nothing I ever said.
On an unrelated note, you're also overlooking the fact that if you bet the flop there's a good chance that a better hand will call and check the turn to you. This gives you two chances to catch one of many outs. You don't lose much equity at all on your bet. It can't be much worse than giving a free card to three random hands.
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#26
12-10-2005, 12:28 PM
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Re: JTo.
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Any ace, any king, any eight have three outs against you. [/ QUOTE ] Does this not mean that an Ace has 3 outs against me, an Eight has 3 outs against me, and a King has 3 outs against me? So 3 outs from the King and 3 outs from the Eight is a total of 6 outs against me. But those 6 outs, the 3 remaining Kings and Eights from a random King or an Eight give me a straight. How does an 8 have an out against me anyway?
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#28
12-10-2005, 04:57 PM
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Re: JTo.
Now where did that come from? I have no idea what you are talking about. You were naming hands that that have outs to beat me and that list included a random King or an Eight, which don't have outs against me. Their outs make me a straight, where did 2 pair come from? This part of the convo is taking up way too much time.
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#29
12-10-2005, 05:36 PM
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Re: JTo.
You played it perfectly. NH. Thats what you want to hear so I said it. Are you happy?
I dont understand why people post hands and then argue with every bit of reason or constructive critcism that they get. There are lots of ways to play certain hands but if youre convinced that you played it correctly, whats the point of posting the hand?
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