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Old 06-06-2005, 04:39 PM
jdock99 jdock99 is offline
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Default I hate Commerce 40-80 game and their stupid must-move system

I am a sporadic mid-level LA player who goes to commerce to play 40-80 once every 2 or 3 weeks, or basically whenever I have too much $$ in my pocket and I feel I need to lighten the load a little bit. However, every time I go there I basically go through the same routine which pisses me off to no end, and I normally storm out of the casino after about and hour, irregardless of how I am doing at the tables. The routine goes something like this.
I walk in and put my name on the 40-80 board, normally like 4-5 names down and wait for my seat, which will take anywhere from 5 minutes to 1 hour to sit down, depending on the time of day and how many regulars who grease the floormen walk in and sit down without even putting their name on a board. In fact when a seat opens up, sometimes the floorman will just lock it and instead of calling the board he will wait for someone to come by and slip him a $10-20 tip and take the seat. This part of the process doesn't even annoy me too much. The floormen gotta make their $$, the players gotta play, and this is just the way it is done. However, what does really piss me off is that when I am finally called I am moved into the "must-move" game. What pisses me off the most about the average commerce 40-80 must move game is that although the table is normally full with 9 people sitting at it, at any given time there is only 4-5 people playing. This is partly because the game is always in flux because new people are waiting to go behind the BB to post or there are older players who are next to move on the list and are sitting out so they dont have to play their blind and move, and partly because it seems to be a commerce top section tradition that as soon as you sit down to play you order way too much of the most expensive food you can find on the menu (ie, ordering two main courses and a full fruit plate, along with 14 bottled waters), then as soon as the food comes you take an out button and you and your 3 closest railbird friends spend the next 30 minutes pigging out on the food, during which course you guys eat about 1/4 of it, and leave the rest for the scavenging railbirds. Anyways, all of this has the effect of making it so the game is always 4-5 handed, and to make matters worse because everyone is just starting their night, they are all playing their "A" game, so when you first sit down to play in the game you are playing in a relatively tough, short-handed game with a relatively high rake. Yay!!
And this is just the beginning. In the commerce 40-80 game, the must move filters into at least 4 main games, and at any given time there are between 4 and 10 names on the table change board, and this doesn't even count the regulars who grease the floormen who get table-changed to the best games first without putting their names on the board at all. So when a seat opens up in a main game after all the table changing is done you are normally moved to the worst game in the house, where there is again 4 people playing with 4 out buttons, and everyone is just waiting to be table changed out.
And to top it off, if you think you are in a bad game and have no chance of getting out in the immediate future because the table change list is too long, you cannot just leave the game and come back in 30 minutes, as commerce has a policy you have to wait 2 hours to get back in the game once you quit it. To be honest, I am not 100% sure this last part is correct, as I think the floorman who was telling me this was just waiting for me to give him a tip so he would put my name back on the board, but by this time I was so pissed off I didn't care anymore and just left.
To sum it up, for the infrequent player it seems the commerce 40-80 game is the perfect game to play if you like playing in lousy short-handed games with a high rake. Now, if you are interested in becoming a regular in this game, you can get around this problem by juicing the floormen so that you can bypass the must-move game and be put in the main game of your choice, but unfortunately this doesnt work for me because I just do not play frequently enough that this tactic would to me any good.
So to sum it up, I really hate the LA area 40-80 setup and wish that the 40-80 games were spread around all the casinos like the yellow chip games instead of all being located at one place, where the "home-turf" players have such a big advantage. And the final indignity is that instead of losing all my hard-earned $$ at the poker table like I would like to, where it can be kept in gambling circulation until some completely useless mid-level casino manager spends it to buy a new Mercedes, I am compelled to go to a strip club and waste it their on a moderately attractive girl, who i am sure will immediately spend it all on drugs or give it to her pimp, thereby taking the $$ completely out of gambling circulation. However, the more I think about it, the pimp/drug dealer who ends up with the $$ probably loses a good portion of it at the track/casino anyways, so perhaps that is not such a bad thing after all.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:40 PM
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:15 PM
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: I hate Commerce 40-80 game and their stupid must-move system

i go to commerce the same as you, about once every 2 weeks.

i too do not believe it tipping the floormen, although i once tipped a low-limit floorwoman 5 bucks to sit withj soem 2p2ers and LAG it up.

i recommend coming into commerce at the 1:00 range. this gets you the stucks and drunks and the stuck drunks. also by this time there are only 4-5 40 tables going, and none of them are must-move

also i suggest you relax
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:00 PM
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I thought that was a great story.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: I hate Commerce 40-80 game and their stupid must-move system

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Old 06-06-2005, 06:20 PM
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:26 PM
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: I hate Commerce 40-80 game and their stupid must-move system

It looks like you found the enter key 4 times...misclick?
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: I hate Commerce 40-80 game and their stupid must-move system

AT LEAST YOU MANAGED TO AVOID THE CAPSLOCK KEY.
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