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Old 11-14-2004, 08:51 PM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default KJs gets 3-bet

Party 10/20 5 handed

Opponent: 35% vpip, 17% pfr, 1.94 postflop aggro factor

I open raise K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in MP, am 3-bet by CO, folds around to me and I call.

Flop(7.5sb): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
I check, CO bets, I call.

Turn(4.75bb): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])
I check, CO bets, I call.

River(6.75bb): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img])
I bet, CO raises, I call.
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Old 11-14-2004, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

I think it looks fine although I think I'd end up 3-betting the river.

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Old 11-14-2004, 09:25 PM
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Default i fold the river

he has ace jack
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

You're really that worried about AJ? I would have led the turn to see if he raises there, and then lead the river again.

Anybody else take that line, or is it one of those lines that will win the least from worse hands and lose the most to better hands?
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:09 PM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

I check-called the turn because I figured a medium pair, T, or overs would certaintly bet again, and an overpair would raise (and I had to call a raise). I was unsure about this at first, but have decided I definately like check-calling the turn.
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

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I think it looks fine although I think I'd end up 3-betting the river.

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3betting is way out of line in my opinion. only very strong hands or bluffs raise this river.
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

3betting is way out of line in my opinion. only very strong hands or bluffs raise this river.

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You dont think he'd play QQ-AA even AT, even KT this way? Opponents stats are leaning towards LAG to me
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:43 PM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

In my experience, most players will not raise this river with a T or overpair. With these hands, all raising does is allow a J to 3-bet, or a bluff or mediocre T to fold. And I also doubt a guy with a 1.94 aggro factor raises those hands on the river.

I was uncertain about this hand at first, but looking back on it more objectively, I think I played it perfectly. Disagreement is certaintly welcome. I'll post results soon.
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

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You dont think he'd play QQ-AA even AT, even KT this way? Opponents stats are leaning towards LAG to me


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his preflop numbers are loose and barely aggro. his postflop aggro factor is actually passive compared to most winning 10/20 players.
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Old 11-14-2004, 11:45 PM
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Default Re: KJs gets 3-bet

I would c/r turn and bet-call river then. If i wouldn't c/r turn i would bet-3bet river.
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