Blind Steal ? - Page 2

#1 12-01-2005, 07:40 PM

That has to be the easiest analysis that I've ever read. This is why I read this forum. Gracias, Cabron'.

Tex

Philuva · #2 12-01-2005, 07:59 PM

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now im with you.

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So what's your answer?

DcifrThs · #3 12-01-2005, 08:32 PM

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now im with you.

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So what's your answer?

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what hands have EV >= .75bbs GIVEN bb calls?

seems its JJ-AA/AKs maybe TT/99 but those are not as strong, so you want him to call big pairs and AKs and fold everything else.

if you have more info on this player the range may get a bit wider (such as he folds all flops he misses)

Barron

#4 11-30-2005, 05:48 PM

10 9 sooted or K8

DcifrThs · #5 11-30-2005, 05:52 PM

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10 9 sooted or K8

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you dont steal with enough hands on the button.

Barron

#6 11-30-2005, 05:59 PM

Yeah, we've been over that issue with my game before. But how are you drawing this conclusion when I say that my threshhold for wanting action is 10 9 sooted or K8, meaning I dont necessarily want a call but I dont mind if they call, either. How does this show I dont steal enough?

Tex

Philuva · #7 11-30-2005, 05:55 PM

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10 9 sooted or K8

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Again, you think your EV will be higher than .75BB for T9s or K8o, if you get action from the BB?

Philuva · #8 11-30-2005, 06:29 PM

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Assuming a typical opponent in the BB, what is the highest valued hand that you have where you open raise and it is folded to the BB and you are hoping the BB folds? ?

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Also, remember that this is a typical opponent who will reraise as well as call from the BB. You are hoping he folds because you think the .75BB you will get from him folding will be higher than the result of the hand if he gives you action.

Peter_rus · #9 11-30-2005, 10:30 PM

The correct answer to this question leading to other important conclusion: If you're BB and button stealing x% - you should defend with...[]

My set of higher hands i prefer stealing rather than seeing the flop is 88/AQo/ATs. This is assuming both blinds would fold around 35% of time (average players). If they fold lesser % of time - borderline highest hands that worth more than 0.75bb/h is lower.

Tommy Angelo · #10 11-30-2005, 11:27 PM

"If you're BB and button stealing x% - you should defend with...[]"

Let's put a number to it. Let's say the button flagrantly and definitely didn't look at his cards, and then raised. So his raise rate is 100%, and he knows that you know this. What hands do you fold?

(Sorry for this thread hijack, if it is one. I'm really curious what answers are to this question.)