WSOP Day 3: "Official" News, Results, and Discussion

[MeanGreenTT]

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Big thread somewhere but paying 10% of the field and not the "normal" 30-40% top payout, all at the final table make at least a million.

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top 10% of the field *is* the norm for multi table tournaments. top 30% is not.

citanul

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I think the way he wrote it was confusing you. He was not saying 30-40% get paid typically. He was saying usually 1st place gets 30-40%. In this tourney, more of that money is distributed amongst the final table.

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Sorry, that was confusing...I meant, 10% of the field vice 30-40% for 1st....

[pyedog]

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These are the lowest ranked players on the chip counts. Six (or nine?) will barely miss out on $12,500.

547 James Courtney 16,800 Chips
548 Bruce Atkinson 16,800 Chips
549 Steven Brown 16,100 Chips
550 George Alex 16,000 Chips
551 Paul Zimbler 15,800 Chips
552 Patrick McCann 15,400 Chips
553 Dan Burns 15,300 Chips
554 Gang Huang 15,200 Chips
555 John Bae 14,900 Chips
556 Martin Laliberte 14,000 Chips
557 Eamon Grimes 13,500 Chips
558 Marty Foth 13,100 Chips
559 Freddie Jones 12,700 Chips
560 Angeloudis Kostas 11,800 Chips
561 Jason Seitz 11,300 Chips
562 Sarne Lightman 11,200 Chips
563 Bill Bostley 9,500 Chips
564 Larry Collins 7,600 Chips
565 Vadim Shlez 5,800 Chips
566 Michael Santoro 3,200 Chips

It'll cost $5,700 to play one orbit at a nine-handed table. Some of these folks are going to have a hard time folding their way into the money.


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It's interesting how most of the bottom 20 chip counts are bunched between 10K and 16K (only 5-8 times the big blind, or enough for about two orbits of the table). And I think 6 of these players are going to finish out of the money.

I am not a tournament poker player so I'm just curious what you guys think the best strategy would be if you had about 11K in chips, assuming that the $12.5K prize was very significant to you. I guess that the luck of who got assigned late position to start the day would be a huge factor when you're a short stack trying to outlast other short stacks.

Say you had 11K and happened to get assigned middle position to start the day, would you just fold every hand and hope that 6 people get eliminated before you do? Or would you push all in on Ax or any pair and hope to win the blinds and survive a bit longer? That would be a very nerve wracking spot to be in for an online qualifier who could really use that $12 grand.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

If you are in spot 555-560 you can't fold your way to the money as some of those behind you will successfully double up or steal some blinds or be folded to in bb. So you need to keep trying to gather chips. Push a lot of different hands if you still have folding equity (11k is large enough). If you get down to 6-7k it becomes mathematics (often your hand in BB will be good enough to make a push or pushcall correct).

[teamdonkey]

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If you are in spot 555-560 you can't fold your way to the money as some of those behind you will successfully double up or steal some blinds or be folded to in bb.

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Some of those ahead of you will bust out before the blinds catch you also. There are probably 3x more people looking to exploit the bubble then there are people trying to ride it out. My guess is 555-560 could fold their way into the money if they wanted to.

If it were me i'd probably tighten up considerably and only put my chips in if it was very clearly +EV.

[HouseBlouse]

Amir is Antionio's little bro. I sat with him much of day 2, he was battling short stack made some aggressive plays and is a pretty good player.

I am at 116,100, sat with jason lester who i gave 30k to, clonie gowen, and some guy who made the final table of the ME couple years ago, don't know his name

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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If you are in spot 555-560 you can't fold your way to the money as some of those behind you will successfully double up or steal some blinds or be folded to in bb.

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Some of those ahead of you will bust out before the blinds catch you also. There are probably 3x more people looking to exploit the bubble then there are people trying to ride it out.

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Good point, in WSOP there are many good players and good players with medium stacks are willing to risk losing on the bubble.

[MoodyA]

right there at 484 32k

here we go

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[TimTimSalabim]

223 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu 97,900

Is this *the* Tom Vu?

[TimTimSalabim]

121 Russ Hamilton 145,300

There's another former champ (and also a good guy by all accounts) to pull for.

[Kevmath]

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223 Tuan 'Tommy' Vu 97,900

Is this *the* Tom Vu?

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I'm sure it is, assuming these stats
are correct.

Kevin...