20 pf 6-max pf decisions - Page 3

Entity · #21 06-07-2005, 03:17 PM

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Not the 55 hand, the A4o hand

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Because A4o sucks against one limper, unless he regularly calls and then folds, and A4o really isn't a great hand to be bloating the pot with since you'll usually be seeing this pot 3-handed or 4-handed?

A9o is my personal cutoff for a raise here; I'd raise A7s+ as well. A4o just doesn't hit enough flops to be worth 2SB preflop.

Rob

scotty34 · #22 06-07-2005, 03:43 PM

1 - Fold
2 - Raise
3 - Raise (fold in full ring)
4 - Raise
5 - Raise (may fold in full ring, depending on limper)
6 - Raise (call in full ring)
7 - Calls
8 - Raise or Fold, depending on blinds
9 - Fold
10 - Fold
11 - Raise
12 - Call
13 - Fold
14 - Fold
15 - Fold
16 - Fold
17 - Complete
18 - Raise (limp in full ring)
19 - Raise or Fold, depending on Raiser
20 - Fold

deception5 · #23 06-07-2005, 04:05 PM

Cool, keep em coming [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Good way for all of us to see where our leaks are.

Here's my blind responses:

1. folds
2. raises
3. folds/raises depending on reads of mp & bb (will they fold to my flop bet if they miss?)
4. calls in a loose/passive game, raises in a tight game, folds in an average game
5. raises
6. calls
7. calls
8. folds
9. calls
10. calls
11. raises/folds depending on table and your image
12. calls
13. calls/folds
14. folds
15. calls
16. folds
17. calls (and probably check/raises a favorable flop)
18. same as the 55 question
19. folds
20. calls/folds

SomethingClever · #24 06-07-2005, 04:23 PM

My answers in BLUE CAPS 

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In keeping with my flooding the wrong forum with this stuff I am checking my pf game out.... I think most of these decions are very easy ones but I might be surprised at what you guys suggest. Please point out the hands you play differently because this is 6-max instead of full ring.

Hand 1:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises HERO? FOLDS 

Hand 2:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold HERO? RAISES 

Hand 3:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, HERO? FOLDS 

Hand 4:
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Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold HERO? I'D LIMP THIS AT 1/2 

Hand 5:

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, HERO? RAISES *IF* UTG IS A DONKEY 

Hand 6:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, HERO? RAISES EVERY TIME 

Hand 7:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO calls, HERO? CALLS, BUT DON'T RAISE PF. JUST COMPLETE HERE. 

Hand 8:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
3 folds, HERO? RAISE OR FOLD, DEPENDS ON TABLE CONDITIONS 

Hand 9:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, HERO? COMPLETES ANY TWO SUITED AFTER 1 LIMPER AT THIS LEVEL 

Hand 10:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, 1 fold, HERO? SEE ABOVE

Hand 11:
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
HERO? RAISE. EASY. 

Hand 12:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 4 folds, HERO? I USUALLY DEFEND THIS 

Hand 13:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds, SB calls, HERO? USUALLY FOLD THIS 

Hand 14:
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds
HERO? MEH, THIS IS A PRETTY MARGINAL STEAL. Q7s = EASY STEAL FROM HERE. 

Hand 15:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls, CO calls, HERO? I FOLD THIS. BUT A CALL IS FINE 

Hand 16:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 3 folds HERO? DEPENDS ON UTG. DEFEND AGAINST THE LAGGIER OPPONENTS. 

Hand 17:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, HERO? I'LL RAISE IF CO IS AWFUL AND BB MIGHT FOLD. OTHERWISE, COMPLETE. 

Hand 18:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
HERO? I LIMP THIS. OTHERS WILL SAY RAISE. 

Hand 19:
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Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, HERO? FOLD AGAINST ALL BUT THE DONKIEST OF DONKEYS 

Hand 20:
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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO calls, HERO? I NEED 2 OR MAYBE EVEN 3 LIMPERS TO PLAY THIS HERE. 

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SomethingClever · #25 06-07-2005, 04:26 PM

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Never open limp at 6 max.

-DeathDonkey

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I think this maxim is a little bit of an exaggeration.

You certainly should not be open limping with any regularity, but I can see open limping UTG or even UTG+1 with low pairs on a passive table.

sin808 · #26 06-07-2005, 04:33 PM

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Never open limp at 6 max.

-DeathDonkey

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I think this maxim is a little bit of an exaggeration.

You certainly should not be open limping with any regularity, but I can see open limping UTG or even UTG+1 with low pairs on a passive table.

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This is pretty much where I was coming from, most of the tables I seem to end up at don't believe in pfr. I'd say it's 99%/1% open-raise/open-limp.

TheWorstPlayer · #27 06-07-2005, 06:11 PM

1 f
2 r
3 r (some info on limper would be nice, but he is probably a donk because he open limps in MP)
4 r
5 r
6 c
7 c
8 f
9 f
10 f
11 c
12 c
13 f
14 f
15 f
16 f
17 c
18 r
19 f
20 f

milesdyson · #28 06-07-2005, 06:46 PM

1: fold.
2: raise.
3: raise or fold depending on blinds. usually fold.
4: depends on table. i raise or fold, probably about half and half.
5: depends on button/blinds, but i end up raising ~65-70% of the time.
6: raising 80-90% of the time.
7: call. i don't always raise the first time either.
8: blind dependent. i fold it more than i raise, though.
9: complete with passive bb.
10: same as above.
11: raise. i don't raise QTo there anymore (i used to).
12: i'd call most of the time. i'd call every time if it were a steal attempt.
13: one more coldcaller and i'm easily in - that said i might call this anyway.
14: i fold most always.
15: fold.
16: fold.
17: raise or complete. complete more often probably.
18: raise at most tables, fold at some (loose table with a maniac or two behind me).
19: easy fold.
20: fold.

Disconnected · #29 06-07-2005, 07:05 PM

There were already a lot of responses by the time I saw the quiz, so I won't add my answers (pretty much in agreement with all the responses I read, anyway, fortunately [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ).

I was actually debating one of two responses for #17:

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Hand 17:
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, K.
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, HERO?

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My first reaction was to complete, but does anyone like a raise to try getting HU against CO? Of course it would be nice to have a little more high card strength or suitedness, but I figure if CO had a strong hand, he'd be raising first in (with no reads). Is there any edge here at all to push?

Nfinity · #30 06-07-2005, 07:27 PM

Droolie, I want you to keep it coming, that way it won't look so bad when I start 6-max spamming. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] It seems there are a lot of us doing 6-max so I don't see what the problem is, as long as we clearly state in the title the 6-max content.

Hand 1: This is very read dependant. With no reads, say this is the very first hand I've had the BB, I'm folding.

Hand 2: Raise it up, odds are we're going to flop to something good or something good to draw to. For the record, if this was offsuit, and there was just 1 more limper, I'd just call. Our edge isn't that great and we will be out of position.

Hand 3: This is another read dependant one. If MP is bad(open limpers most times are) and BB is weak, I'll raise it up to try and fold BB. Otherwise I fold.

Hand 4: Raise

Hand 5: Fold

Hand 6: Raise

Hand 7: Call. This is just liked talked about in your last thread, where you see re-steal attempts everytime the BB 3-bets you. Unless this guy is a proven maniac your better off seeing a Flop, and evaluating from there.

Hand 8: Fold

Hand 9: If button doesn't raise a lot of hands on average, I'll complete getting 5-1

Hand 10: Same as 9

Hand 11: Raise

Hand 12: Fold usually.

Hand 13: Fold definitely

Hand 14: Fold

Hand 15: Fold. If it was 9To I might call.

Hand 16: Fold

Hand 17: Same as Hand 3.

Hand 18: Tight table this is the cutoff where I raise UTG, at a looser table I fold.

Hand 19: Usually fold.

Hand 20: If the blinds aren't raising a lot of hands I'll limp, otherwise fold.