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Old 11-07-2005, 12:38 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default EP Blind Steal

$200+$50 B&M Tournament 100 left out of 400 pays 28.

Blinds are doubling every 20 minutes. T5,000 chips to start with, average stack is ~T25,000. Hero and most players have been in push and fold mode for an hour.

Blinds: (3000/6000) no antes

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Hero sits down at new table in MP picks up 66 and open pushes for T35,000 winning blinds.

2nd hand the SB goes broke.


The hand in question: (blinds: 2 big blinds and a small blind on the button) (T15,000)

Hero has T44,000 and A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG. When I look up I notice that MP1,MP2,MP3 are all holding their cards ready to throw them in the muck; I believe them. The 4 remaining players all have ~T40K stacks aswell. Instead of tossing my cards in, I move my chips in instead.

What range of hands is likely to call here among the 4 remaining players in this environment?
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:36 AM
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Bump. Anyone with B&M experience is crappy structure tournaments. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:39 AM
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I've played in a few crappy live tournys like this before. I would say the calling range for the remaining villains(assuming they are average at best) is probably 77/88+, AJ maaaaaaaaaybe AT. I do remember though that in one of these crappy tournys where the avg stack at the mid/late stage was maybe 5bb one of my friends pushed from UTG+1 with 67s and was calling by A8 in the blind for most of his chips, although I think this is on the extreme loose end even in a tourny filled with donkeys. I don't really know what I'm getting at since my mind is wandering from being strung out on adderall at the library all day but yea, that's the range I would put them on.
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Old 11-08-2005, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: EP Blind Steal

it really depends on the tourney, but this is still an easy push. You may get a loose call from a weak ace, but it's more than made up for by the fact that so many people will fold AT/A9 and 44-77 there. The big thing you have working against you is the fact that you have stole 100% of the hands at the table. That is somewhat made up for by the read that they looked uninterested. I wouldn't hate a fold there, but I would push pretty quickly.
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Old 11-08-2005, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: EP Blind Steal

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When I look up I notice that MP1,MP2,MP3 are all holding their cards ready to throw them in the muck; I believe them

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sorry for hijack, but is it legal/ethical to do that with AA?
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:48 PM
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When I look up I notice that MP1,MP2,MP3 are all holding their cards ready to throw them in the muck; I believe them

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sorry for hijack, but is it legal/ethical to do that with AA?

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certainly legal, some may argue it's ethicality, but it's not like they were mucking out of turn only to retrieve their 'folded' AA.
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