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Old 10-18-2004, 03:33 AM
theBruiser500 theBruiser500 is offline
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Default A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius

Everyone I've talked to about this book so far has said it's either good or very good. The first section of the book I thought was very good, and sad. But I got put off during the interview he has with MTV and started trying to get through the book quickly. For instance,

"Who's gorgeous?"
"Not like that. No, I just mean, that it's in bloom. That's what you're all about, right? The showing of raw fruit, correct? Whether that's in videos or on spring break, whatever, the amplifying of youth, the editing and volume magnifying what it means to be right there, at the point when all is allowed and your body wants everything for it, is hungry and taut, churning, an energy vortex, sucking all towards it..."

This just seems like a lot of bullshit to me. At first I thought the author made him talk like this on purpose as a mockery, but the MTV interview just goes on and on forever so maybe this is all supposed to be taken seriously.

And then towards the end,

"Oh but I do this for you. Don't you see I do this for you? I have done this all for you. I pretend that I do not but I do. I eat you to save you. I drink you to make you new. I gorge myself on all of you and I stand, drooping, with fists, with heaving shoulders- I will look stupid, I will crawl, drenched in blood and [censored], I will-"

WTF. It is just too much for me. Opinions on the book?
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:19 AM
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Opinions on the book?

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Totally self-indulgent.

Think Bukowski, just more ambitious and without being interesting.

Better yet, think Henry Miller, just less ambitious and without being interesting.
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius

uh what are you talking about? a book?
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Old 10-18-2004, 08:29 AM
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Better yet, it isn't not interesting, it is BORING, if the excerpt from Amazon.com is any indication:


"Well, this was when Bill was sighing a lot. He had decided that after our parents died he just didn't want any more fighting between what was left of us. He was twenty-four, Beth was twenty-three, I was twenty-one, Toph was eight, and all of us were so tried already, from that winter. So when something world come up, any little thing, some bill to pay or decision to make, he would just sigh, his eyes tired, his mouth in a sorry kind of smile. But Beth and I...Jesus, we were fighting with everyone, anyone, each other, with strangers at bars, anywhere -- we were angry people wanting to exact revenge. We came to California and we wanted everything, would take what was ours, anything within reach. And I decided that little Toph and I, he with his backward hat and long hair, living together in our little house in Berkeley, would be world-destroyers. We inherited each other and, we felt, a responsibility to reinvent everything, to scoff and re-create and drive fast while singing loudly and pounding the windows. It was a hopeless sort of exhilaration, a kind of arrogance born of fatalism, I guess, of the feeling that if you could lose a couple of parents in a month, then basically anything could happen, at any time -- all bullets bear your name, all cars are there to crush you, any balcony could give way; more disaster seemed only logical. And then, as in Dorothy's dream, all these people I grew up with were there, too, some of them orphans also, most but not all of us believing that what we had been given was extraordinary, that it was time to tear or break down, ruin, remake, take and devour. This was San Francisco, you know, and everyone had some dumb idea -- I mean, wicca? -- and no one there would tell you yours was doomed. Thus the public nudity, and this ridiculous magazine, and the Real World tryout, all this need, most of it disguised by sneering, but all driven by a hyper-awareness of this window, I guess, a few years when your muscles are taut, coiled up and vibrating. But what to do with the energy? I mean, when we drive, Toph and I, and we drive past people, standing on top of all these hills, part of me wants to stop the car and turn up the radio and have us all dance in formation, and part of me wants to run them all over."


As I posted before: The Decline of Art In The Modern World. You missed the original impromptu mini-essay (lol), Rushmore, as did all posters of this forum format, but the above is a fine example of what is wrong with most art today. It simply sucks.
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Old 10-18-2004, 10:02 AM
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Better yet, it isn't not interesting, it is BORING

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I agree with that. What thread was your post in?
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Old 10-18-2004, 10:23 AM
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I liked the first part a lot but hated the MTV section and skimmed over most of it. the last part was just ok, although anything was going to be good after that MTV part.

off topic, but I am reading "one hundred years of solitude" right now and it's excellent.

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Old 10-18-2004, 11:34 AM
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off topic, but I am reading "one hundred years of solitude" right now and it's excellent.


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This should be mandatory reading in high school.

Maybe we could do without The Scarlet Letter.

Seems like a great trade to me.
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Old 10-18-2004, 11:36 AM
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I agree 100%, especially since I had to read the scarlet letter in high school. I wanted to read "100 years" in spanish, but I'm lazy [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

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Old 10-18-2004, 01:22 PM
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I'm a huge book reader...and a writer, as well...Masters in English....not bragging, just giving my qualifications for berating this masturbatory piece of shite that for some reason has everyone cheering.

This book sucked eggs. Boring, self-involved, twaddle.

Want to read something incredible, try "House of Leaves," by Mark D-something-long-and-Polish.

Mind-bending, tour de force.
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Old 10-18-2004, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius

I rather liked it, but maybe that's as much nostalgia as anything else. The parts in the Bay Area really did feel exactly like that when I was there in the mid 90s.
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