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Old 05-29-2005, 05:52 PM
thestevo31 thestevo31 is offline
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Default Going all in on the nut flush draw

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SB ($24.60)
BB ($14.30)
UTG ($24.50)
UTG+1 ($19.90)
MP1 ($67.70)
MP2 ($67.70)
CO ($64.05)
Hero ($12.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($8) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11.25</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $6.25.

Turn: ($30.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($30.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $30.50

Just wondering if this was the correct play
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:04 PM
boondockst boondockst is offline
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

Probably not. You have no fold equity at this point and it's very likely that a spade is your only out.
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:54 PM
thestevo31 thestevo31 is offline
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

Thanks, thats what I figured. I just needed extra verification to prove somebody wrong
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

your play is probably very slightly -EV, but certainly nothing that is going to hurt you too bad in the long run with your stack size.

cheers!
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

If you are playing short stacked, the one thing you absolutely cannot do is call raises with speculative hands like K9s.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

I'm just doing this for practice. My math could be wrong and I'm sure someone will correct me if it is. This is just an approximation anyway as it does not take into account your opponet having redraw outs or the possibility of you getting another caller.

odds of hitting flush ~0.35
$ in pot = 30.5
(30.5*0.35)-11.25=-0.575
Ev of a call ~ -0.575

Ev of fold = 13

-0.575(1-x) + 13x = 0
x ~ 0.042


If he will fold more than 4.2% of the time this is a good play. If not it is a play that has slightly negative ev. Also I don't like the call pf.

silly
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Going all in on the nut flush draw

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If you are playing short stacked, the one thing you absolutely cannot do is call raises with speculative hands like K9s.

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definitely. i didn't even pay attention to the PF action the first time i read thru.

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