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Old 12-27-2005, 10:20 AM
illegit illegit is offline
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Default Re: Who likes this push? Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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whats wrong with 600, then playing poker if you get a caller?

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Because 'playing poker' with jacks sucks?
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Old 12-27-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Who likes this push? Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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whats wrong with 600, then playing poker if you get a caller?

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Because 'playing poker' with jacks sucks?

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I think you do better raising to 600. You have 2400 and there is 375 in the pot. If you standard raise, someone may reraise with a weaker hand. If you get called, you can win a much bigger pot than if everyone folds to the push.

I think the push is kind of weak/tight afraid to see a flop. It is OK if you feel that you are overmatched postflop or you are playing with maniacs or calling stations who will call without real strong holdings.

The push looks more like AK, so Ax/Kx will fold if they have any sense. Someone might be stupid enough to call with a lower pair. Against good players, you are only going to be called by AA-QQ or AK.

If there were 2 or 3 limpers, I like the push more, as it is less of an overbet and it looks like you are trying to steal the pot. In that case, people may put you on AK/AQ or a steal and call with TT/99.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:28 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: Who likes this push? Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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you are playing with maniacs or calling stations who will call without real strong holdings.


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I felt like this was a real posibility. Not so much maniacs, but that I would get a push called, since my 3s push got called by AQs.

But still, what if I get one caller after me and the flop comes KT3, two suited, I have 1800 left, how much do you bet? This is the situation I was afraid of.
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Old 12-27-2005, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: Who likes this push? Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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you are playing with maniacs or calling stations who will call without real strong holdings.


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I felt like this was a real posibility. Not so much maniacs, but that I would get a push called, since my 3s push got called by AQs.

But still, what if I get one caller after me and the flop comes KT3, two suited, I have 1800 left, how much do you bet? This is the situation I was afraid of.

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On a KT3 flop, I would bet out solidly and be ready to go allin.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Who likes this push? Party 30+3 w/ 250 entrants

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you are playing with maniacs or calling stations who will call without real strong holdings.


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I felt like this was a real posibility. Not so much maniacs, but that I would get a push called, since my 3s push got called by AQs.

But still, what if I get one caller after me and the flop comes KT3, two suited, I have 1800 left, how much do you bet? This is the situation I was afraid of.

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If you raise to 600 preflop and get one caller, there will be 1300-1600 in the pot. With 1800 left, i think checkraising all in is the safer play.

If you bet at the pot, the only reasonable bet would be a push. You're unlikely to get called by a hand that you beat. MAYBE A10 from a donk who puts you on AQ. Checkraising here lets you pick off a possible bluff, and may be able to push someone off a better hand (unlikely.)
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