three hands against one maniac

[mike l.]

80 live against a psyhco lady who clearly just gambles up laggy constantly from several hands ive seen. she loves to openraise whenever it's folded to her and loves to bet whenever checked to regardless of her cards. she has strong when weak tells with her betting.

hand 1 i get KdTd in hijack, she openraises, i 3 bet, she calls. the flop is Qd7h3c. she checks, i bet, she checkraises real strong/fast like. i call. the turn is 6d. she bets, i call. the river is a 4h. she bets, i call.

hand 2 a generally sort of tight mediocre guy openraises from hijack, she 3 bets, i call in the bb w/ Ad2d planning to bet most flops. raiser calls. 3 of us. the flop is Kh9d3c. i bet, hijack folds, she calls. the turn is Ts. i decide to check-call her down regardless of what comes. i check, she obliges and bets, i call. the river is an 8c, i check-call.

hand 3. i get 6c4c in the bb. she openraises on the button i call. the flop is 6h5d2d. i checkraise, she 3 bets, i 4 bet. im planning to put at least 12 bets in on the flop, but she just calls. the turn is a Q. i bet, she raises, i call. the river is a K, i check-call.

[Jules22]

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im planning to put at least 12 bets in on the flop

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fresh like misted lettuce [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Ian J]

Is this for real? Hands 1 and 2? In hand 2, what do you beat? In hand 1, if you're that determined, raise the river or something, she may fold KJ.

[obi---one]

i really think you should raise the turn in hand one. and check it behind if you miss.

[soah]

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i really think you should raise the turn in hand one. and check it behind if you miss.

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It sounds like this player will bet the river.

[oreogod]

I pretty much play these the same way as u, given your read. Only exception, Hand 1...think about popping turn. I mean, if she is really that crazy to 3bet with a worse hand, then call down.

Hand 2, I like the c/c approach from the turn and on, as she will raise a decent amount of air, while almost never taking the free card.

Hand 3 preflop -- I like the move. Close imo. Id have no idea what Id do until the action got to me. Postflop is good though.

[andyfox]

A player who will bet nearly 100% of the time when checked to should be called down often. So I think blackjacks, A-xs, and K-Q go up in value against this type of player. But K-T and 6-4 are trouble hands.

In hand 1, the raise-the-flush-draw-on-the-turn ploy works much less than it used to, as you and others have pointed up here before. I think I prefer not to raise the turn, since she'd then not put you on a flush if you happen to get there on the river and you could make oodles of bets.

On hand 3, I don't understand why you would want to put "at least 12" bets in on the flop. Just too many ways to get turned or rivered. Or maybe I just misunderstand the meaning of your post title. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[mike l.]

hand 3: "Just too many ways to get turned or rivered."

but so many more ways to win the pot with my pair of 6s. not putting in a lot of bets with my hand here against someone willing to competely overplay as little as one overcard is an error.

[shemp]

Maybe this is weak tight thinking, but if she'd go 12 bets with a single overcard on a 632 board, doesn't that make her call of your flop 4 bet pretty scary?

[mike l.]

"but if she'd go 12 bets with a single overcard on a 632 board"

how can someone know for sure if she would, but im saying that she might. as much as some of you will try to insist otherwise, my read of this player was solid and if she kept going i wouldve kept going and i wouldve been right to.