100% standard AJ raptor hand from sb.. in the 55s at least..

[johnnybeef]

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PS: Someone tell me that girl has done porn pls


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she has, but the guy i hired to film us doesnt know a camera from his [censored]...

[johnnybeef]

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women that look that good don't do porn. they get paid to take pictures where they are standing nowhere near men.

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who said anything about getting paid? see above.

[adanthar]

You know, I normally do not give a rat's ass about celebrities or airbrushed photos, but dear God that girl is so [censored] hot even in the other pics on her site.

So anyway, this thread is totally +EV.

[Jay36489]

Dreaming about girls you don't have a shot with is -EV I believe. Not that that will stop me or anything...

[destroBU]

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dear GOD. i said in a 215 my standard play is a check raise. obv i give it merit. im an agressive person by nature. i made my post. i made the play. and i will defend it to the death. if i reach resistance, i will fight it. if it fights back, i will keep fighting. thats my style. ill back down when proven wrong. i havent been. holla

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Wow. It's almost as if you completely ignored my post, which had basically nothing to do with poker, and everything to do with how abrasive and condescending you've been in this thread.

[raptor517]

ok, first off, about the check raise.. do you REALLY think i dont HONESTLY understand the reasoning and benefits of making a check raise to around 75 here? i mean seriously people. do you honestly think i havent taken apart this hand already, and looked at every option provided?

where in my arguments, did i ever say anyone was completely wrong. (maybe i did at some point, show me please if i did..). yes, i argue. yes, im aggressive. thats my style. it works for me. i posted this hand to START controversy. thats why i make threads like this. this is NOT the first one.

as far as the reputation post? trust me, i have been berated again and again for unorthodox plays. thats fine, ill defend them. if i ever make a play i like, i will back it up to the bitter end until slapped in the face by an obvious better play. until i reach that point, i will simply refuse to back down. tragic flaw, sure, but i dont dislike it at all.

also, as far as respect goes, i feel like i have at least somewhat earned it. i dont berate noobs too often unless they blatently attack me. i dont give bad advice. i dont make useless threads. i didnt get whatever 'respect' i have by offering bad advice, wasting peoples time, and simply talking crap i cant back up.

anyone who thinks i have an inflated ego? think again. maybe 3 months ago i had an inflated ego. i was brought back to earth after a couple vegas trips. thats all it took. i know where i stand in the poker world, and especially in the sng world. im a good, winning player, that does best massive multitabling medium stakes sngs.

again, let me say that the entire reason of creating this thread was to generate arguments. i revel in it. it puts me in the best frame of mind for thinking i can possibly be in. it causes my brain to perform at a much higher level than normal, for some sick reason. if u disagree with me, fine, i dont mind at all, even my so called 'friends' that i 'dont argue' with challenge me constantly. thats what makes us all better. i dont go off on them on the forum mainly because i talk to all of them on aim about things like this anyway.

ok, i dont really know what else to say, ill go read more posts and try to respond. thanks for makin it fun so far, i got plenty of juice left [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] holla

[raptor517]

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dear GOD. i said in a 215 my standard play is a check raise. obv i give it merit. im an agressive person by nature. i made my post. i made the play. and i will defend it to the death. if i reach resistance, i will fight it. if it fights back, i will keep fighting. thats my style. ill back down when proven wrong. i havent been. holla

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Wow. It's almost as if you completely ignored my post, which had basically nothing to do with poker, and everything to do with how abrasive and condescending you've been in this thread.

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ok so u call me condescending again. flip it around and look at what people have been saying to me. sure, im abrasive, ok, thats how i argue. im not talking down to anyone in my mind. maybe it comes off that way, and now that i actually read it, it does. well, fine, ill bite. i apologize for offending anyone. if you got offended though, i dont think you should be posting on a forum like this. i dont get offended easy, and love being challenged. and no, i didnt ignore yer post, i responded in a way i saw fit. thankyou. holla

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I said it.

This raise and the mentality behind it is completely wrong. I really don't think that minbetter couldn't have an ace here, or flush draw, and caller could have anything. AJ is good at least 56% of the time here. You can call for bluffing value, or raise it. Both are more +EV then folding TPGK on a board like that.

[vinyard]

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ok, first off, about the check raise.. do you REALLY think i dont HONESTLY understand the reasoning and benefits of making a check raise to around 75 here? i mean seriously people. do you honestly think i havent taken apart this hand already, and looked at every option provided?

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If you did and dismissed it you are at least a coinflip to be wrong. IMHO, you play in this hand from round to round is inconsistent.

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i posted this hand to START controversy. thats why i make threads like this. this is NOT the first one.

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yep. And those of us that are still learning the game appreciate your effort. And I like starting controversy as a reason to originate a thread. It sure seems, however, that you are not responding reasonably to the criticism that was offered to you as a consequence of the controvery you *chose* to create.

Look, you're clearly a brillaint poker player but, well, your interpersonal skills suck ass. At least in writing. Either you wanted a flame war or you didn't. If its the latter you should have responded to the criticisms (which you knew would come) as an adult. If its the former, none of this should bother you.

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[raptor517]

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Irieguy's response about that "better spot" being a chance to push T8s 5-handed is more correct than you seem to think. cEV and $EV in level 1 are pretty close.... this idea of waiting for a better spot is negated by the fact that acquiring a big stack GIVES you the opportunity to exploit those better spots. Need I link to a Gigabet post?

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well, as far as that goes, i def see the benefit in having more chips for the bubble blah blah that kinda thing. however, to GET those chips, is it worth risking bringing yerself down to 850 chips to be at 1100ish? maybe.. thats for another day though..

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I know that both you and I like to play more than 8 tables at once. Even though you had a "feeling" you were beat here, how reliable could your read be with so many tables open?


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meh, i duno, i notice things. i sit far back and try to take in everything.. if that makes sense. i try to focuse on every hand that is being played, no matter how many there are. doesnt always work, but i try to take in as much as i can..

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You have too many tables open to remember which opponent limped with 76o in level 1 and called small bets to river a miracle straight

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i make tiny little notes every time i see something like that. its sick really, a habit but i like it. usher does the same thing.. though im not sure as much anymore.

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You can infer very little about how your opponents play the later levels (where you say your edge is greatest) from their level 1 play. Yes, they're fish, but are they the type of fish who tighten up late in an effort to sneak into the money, or the type who spite call you on the bubble with T9o? There's a major difference between these two types of players, and the information you just paid for does not help if there's no way to apply it. Heck, you could have used Poker Prophecy to measure how fishy your opponents are.


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i really like this point.. as its VERY hard to infer how someone will play late game. loose people playing lots of hands early, might actually tighten up late because they are not sure how to play correctly. or the tighties early that turn into push bots late.

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I know you are a huge winner but your posts reek of complacency, which is a dangerous thing.

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ask anyone that has met me in real life. im not complacent. i do have a gambling problem, lol, but thats quickly getting fixed after i realized how much i actually threw away in vegas..

good post. holla