Bet my draw, hit my hand, and now it's two bets back to me...

ElSapo · #1 10-29-2003, 11:57 AM

Party 2/4

Four limpers to me in the BB with 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], I knock. Five to the flop.

Flop is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I bet and get three callers.

Turn is a 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet and get three callers.

River the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I bet. First caller raises. Second caller three-bets, one fold and it’s back on me…

Call, raise or fold?

slavic · #2 10-29-2003, 11:58 AM

At Party I'm not folding.

barrett · #3 10-29-2003, 12:01 PM

I'd call expecting to lose.

stantheman · #4 10-29-2003, 12:08 PM

I hold my breath and call.

34TheTruth34 · #5 10-29-2003, 12:11 PM

Why are you betting the flop? There is no chance all four opponents will fold with that board, and most of the time you will be raised. Unless there's something special about the game that you didn't tell us (overly tight, for example), I think you're pissing money away here (in the long run). I'd check the flop and be thrilled if it got checked around. Considering you got such a good turn card, I might try a check-raise on the turn if a late position player had bet the flop.

ElSapo · #6 10-29-2003, 12:15 PM

Why are you betting the flop?

Really? I usually bet my flush draws into the field and look for a lot of callers and raiser, to three-bet with enough players to justify. If this is way off, let me know. I'm not looking for people to fold, I want them to call.

slavic · #7 10-29-2003, 12:17 PM

You have value in your bet. Shame it wasn't raised.

Nate tha' Great · #8 10-29-2003, 12:24 PM

It's a little bit riskier in the BB because of the chance that an EP player would raise you and isolate, but most tables at Party aren't that aggressive.

ElSapo · #9 10-29-2003, 01:05 PM

I called (no way I fold here). They both showed ATo and I take it down.

I think betting into a field with a flush draw has value, especially on a loose-passive table. But I'm open to arguments.

I took it down, and was amazed.

ThingDo · #10 10-29-2003, 01:16 PM

What about the table being passive adds value to betting into that field? I'm not saying there isn't... I just honestly don't know.