Squirrel Post- don't miss the Nuts

[phish]

Maybe 2+2 needs to publish a book called "How to Read the Board for Advanced Players"

[2+2 wannabe]

Why's everyone ragging on this post? Oh yeah it's probably the same people that say "OMFG POKER IS RIGGED!!1111ONE!! This post is better than 90% of the posts in here.

Many poker books have this information, and I KNOW that most people have misread the board in some form or another in terms of what they're beating and what they're not

Good work on the post!

No offense to the guy who posted this, but his method sounds more like an algorithm for programming a computer poker game than something that is useful to a human player.

"Does the board contain three cards of one suit? If yes, can you add four to the lowest card of the suit, and reach the two higher cards of that suit on the board? If so a straight flush is possible. For this equation, there are fourteen cards in the deck because A is low or high. J is eleven, Queen is twelve, King is thirteen and ace is One and Fourteen. So if the board has A 3 5 you can add 4 to A, hit the three and reach the 5 and a SF is possible. If the board has three cards of a suit all in a row (e.g. 89T) two S.F.s are possible, the nuts being the higher S.F."

Come on, sh-t like that is only going to serve to confuse a new player. This is hold 'em -- people don't make straight flushes. All you need to know is that if there's three or more of a suit on board, a flush is possible. If the board is paired, anything from 3 of a kind to quads is possible. Do you really need a mathematical forumula to determine whether or not a straight can be made? Wait, how much is a king worth!?!? Come on. Someone who has never played poker before will be able to read the board and recognize possibilities after a half hour of play.

This is overkill.

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his method sounds more like an algorithm for programming a computer poker game

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It's not very efficient, although it is fairly robust.

[Karak567]

Worrying about losing to a straight flush on a 3 flush board when you have an ace high flush is like worrying about losing to KK when you have AA on a KAK flop, it's asinine.

[timprov]

You ignored recognizing when the nuts are on the board, which seems to be a very common mistake.

[neuroman]

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You ignored recognizing when the nuts are on the board, which seems to be a very common mistake.

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The nuts are never on the board, unless it's a broadway rainbow straight, royal flush, four of a kind + an ace, or four aces + a king.

[timprov]

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You ignored recognizing when the nuts are on the board, which seems to be a very common mistake.

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The nuts are never on the board, unless it's a broadway rainbow straight, royal flush, four of a kind + an ace, or four aces + a king.

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I've seen so many folds with broadway on the board, and a few with quads+tk. I've only seen a royal on the board once, and nobody was dumb enough to fold. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think I go through this process intuitively. Anyway, you left out straights and you ignored straight-flushes that come up on boards like 2c8c9cQc2d (you started from the lowest card on board, in reality, the question should be "Are there 3 cards of the same suit within 4 ranks of each other" instead of the thing about adding 4 to the lowest).

Also, your full house thing is wrong if the pair is the card of highest rank on board, like on the board AA347, the nut full house is A7, not 77.

[roundest]

I look forward to your book. Will you be coming up with a simple way to memorize hand rankings?