J9s and weird results

Grease · #1 06-23-2005, 01:24 AM

I have no idea how PF happened. Limper had a VPIP over 40, hence the raise, and the other villian was LA-P (38/15/.5)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls, Button caps, SB calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, MP2 caps, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

thirddan · #2 06-23-2005, 01:29 AM

3bet turn, lead river...

i think you need to be puttin in more bets here...i think a flopped set is more likely than another flopped flush, especially since the AKJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] are all out...

KDawgCometh · #3 06-23-2005, 01:32 AM

I think I'd three bet the turn and call it down if capped. I really wouldn't be surprised if the button turned up a set here, and since the board didn't pair, I think we are good here enough to three bet the turn

imported_leader · #4 06-23-2005, 02:01 AM

Is that a standard PF raise?

Anyway, I'd 3-bet the turn as well. Call down a cap.

Grease · #5 06-23-2005, 02:02 AM

I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...

imported_leader · #6 06-23-2005, 02:06 AM

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I raised to isolate LP limper. It didn't work...

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How high is your PFR? Minds 10 and I don't even make that play with JTs thou I probably should.

Grease · #7 06-23-2005, 02:07 AM

~9

thirddan · #8 06-23-2005, 02:07 AM

i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds

imported_leader · #9 06-23-2005, 02:11 AM

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i raise J9s ther and Q8s, maybe down to K6/7s

edit - depending on blinds

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If you don't have steal stats on the blinds, how tight VPiPwise do they have to be for you to start getting real aggressive with your isolations and steals?

thirddan · #10 06-23-2005, 02:53 AM

i would become much tighter isolating if the big blind is about VPIP 20%, many more hands become playable for a raise if there is a limper...