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Old 12-24-2005, 01:09 PM
hit_the_set hit_the_set is offline
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Default Re: QQ out of position on a rag flop

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if you check the turn it is so you can check-raise

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Old 12-24-2005, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: QQ out of position on a rag flop

Why would you check raise this turn?
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: QQ out of position on a rag flop

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Why would you check raise this turn?

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Gives you really no information about villains hand by doing this...I hate this line, either check/call or lead and fold to a big raise or push.
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:44 AM
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Yea...to be honest checkraising the turn was the last thing on my mind. I dont see how this can be a good play. I checked the turn to try and keep the pot small. Hopefully if he's on a draw, he'll just check to the river and I can make a decision there, based upon whether or not a scare card came out. I assume when villain is firing on the turn and the river, he either has absolutely nothing or a monster. Check raising loses me the most when he has a monster and wins me the least when he's got nothing since there's no chance of him bluffing a worst hand on the river...am I right in this line of thought?
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Old 12-25-2005, 04:53 AM
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Scubba, no I don't think you are correct in this line of thinking. And for someone who just correctly adviced dregal not to make a bet on the river when it could only cost him money, I don't understand where your line of thinking is coming from?

You want to check on the turn to keep the pot small and keep a drawing hand in the pot??? You'll make a decision at the river???? No, No, NO

With QQ you have the best hand on the turn in all likelihood, you have to bet that and make a nice bet (pot or 2/3 pot) Chase out the drawing hands, what if he had been on a club draw, would you have been happy to see the club on the river, what decision would you have made than?

On the turn the pot was already big enough to just take it down right than, make a respectable bet (I'd bet the pot if it were me) Take it down and move on to the next hand

P.S. YOU NEVER WANT TO KEEP THE POT SMALL WITH POCKET QUEENS!
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Old 12-25-2005, 05:05 AM
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AGAIN, NEVER CHECK TO A DRAWING HAND ON THE TURN, WHY DO IT?

THEY WILL ONLY CHECK ALSO AND SEE THE RIVER FOR FREE, THIS IS VERY BAD
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