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View Poll Results: What hands win big pots?
others (J4 os) 2 7.41%
one/two-gappers (like 86os) 0 0%
suited connectors 6 22.22%
big hands (QQ/AK-type) 12 44.44%
small pairs 7 25.93%
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:15 PM
JustPlayingSmart JustPlayingSmart is offline
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Default Re: pushing in the orange zone (PP$150)

You're missing a fundamental difference between SNGs and MTTs. The payout structure of an MTT is so top heavy that accumulating chips is much more important than survival. In a STT (with 5 players left, especially), survival becomes paramount. If you look in that thread, you will see that Curtains said he would most likely not push AQo in this situation in an MTT.

In an STT, cEV is often times very different than $EV. In early and middle stages of an MTT, cEV is usually very close to $EV.

Pushing might be the best play here, but a bubble SNG situation gives no support to your argument.

BTW, you don't think you can play AJs profitably from MP in this spot with a standard raise?
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:12 PM
Elaboration Elaboration is offline
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Default Re: pushing in the orange zone (PP$150)

Texas,

Haven't looked at the STT debate, but to me, this is really a table dynamics sort of thing.

Most of the time I'm tossing in a standard raise, but if the table was playing loose and I thought I could get the chips in against a dominated hand, or KQ and such then pushing isnt terrible.

As I look closer, I'd prefer to be a little closer to the button so it seems more like a steal.
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:35 PM
Exitonly Exitonly is offline
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Default Re: pushing in the orange zone (PP$150)

i think it's probably a tossup as to which play is more profitable (push, limp, 3x, i don't think folding is an option) they'll all make you money. i'd think about limping, and if raised, maybe push on it. The more i type about that, the more i like it.
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