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Old 09-26-2005, 08:21 PM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

I'm posting it one piece at a time though.

UTG and MP were predictable bad players. 60/14 type players. Players who I have dominated more than they dominate me. SB is unknown.

Krishan
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

i think preflop is fine as long as the blinds are not aggressive.
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:42 PM
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Default Re: Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

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i think preflop is fine as long as the blinds are not aggressive.

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am i allowed to quote this without saying why I agree?
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:44 PM
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i think preflop is fine as long as the blinds are not aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero ...

No read on SB. This is subtle. Give me your thoughts.

Krishan
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: Preflop, flop, turn, heck the whole thing up for debate...

i doubt your equity is enough here to raise--i'd just call and pop a safe turn i think
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:47 PM
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i doubt your equity is enough here to raise--i'd just call and pop a safe turn i think

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Define safe...

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Old 09-26-2005, 08:50 PM
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i doubt your equity is enough here to raise--i'd just call and pop a safe turn i think

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Define safe...

Krishan

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non-heart, non A I think...depends on the action I guess.

Like, if the turn brings a T or a J or a K I think if the action goes bet call fold or something you should raise. but if SB checks a big turn card and someone else bets I think you can either call or fold depending on pot size and how many outs you think you have. (like if you think your 2pr/gutshot outs are any good)
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Old 09-26-2005, 08:54 PM
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depends on the action I guess.

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Yes, one of the advantages of waiting till the turn is we can dump the hand to 2 bets on the turn pretty safely. Barring that, I agree an ace or heart is not good. Rest of your analysis looks nice.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, MP folds, Hero ????

Krishan
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Old 09-26-2005, 09:20 PM
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i think preflop is fine as long as the blinds are not aggressive.

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am i allowed to quote this without saying why I agree?

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Old 09-26-2005, 09:20 PM
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I pop the flop.
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