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Old 07-27-2005, 06:11 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default 2nd nut flush draw early

4th hand or so, no reads yet. 20+2 speed.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

SB (t980)
Hero (t1000)
UTG (t955)
UTG+1 (t1000)
UTG+2 (t1090)
MP1 (t2205)
MP2 (t980)
MP3 (t925)
CO (t920)
Button (t945)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t40</font>, UTG+1 calls t40, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t40, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t20.

Flop: (t170) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t500</font>, CO folds, Hero folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: t690
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:58 PM
TheDrone TheDrone is offline
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush draw early

Not much else you can do there. If you were HU and could put UTG+1 to a difficult decison, then making an aggressive play at the pot with a flush draw has some merit. You need some FE to make it a good play, and UTG+1 is probably not going to fold now.
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:59 PM
Willluck Willluck is offline
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush draw early

I donno, but since this is a speed tourney I think you have to go all in. but if this were a regular tourney this is a very very very easy fold against unknowns.
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:18 PM
mmmmmbrother mmmmmbrother is offline
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush draw early

so you betting 20 was looking for a raise but then you got one you think is too big?
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Old 07-27-2005, 09:22 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush draw early

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so you betting 20 was looking for a raise but then you got one you think is too big?

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I checked it because I wanted to checkraise all in for FE but that didn't work out too well [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 07-27-2005, 10:40 PM
WillMagic WillMagic is offline
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Default Re: 2nd nut flush draw early

Um, yeah.

There's not a lot to talk about here. You have no fold equity, and the pot odds just aren't there to draw to 10 outs. Good laydown.

Will
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