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Old 11-10-2005, 03:23 AM
jdl22 jdl22 is offline
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Default 15/30 55 in EP

I'm right now playing 3/6 and 5/10 6 max but a player at my 3/6 table had 95% vp$ip and about 35% pfr and moved up to 5/10 and finally 15/30 so I followed him along. I did pick up a pot with AK UI against him but he left during my first orbit. As such, I have no reads for this hand. My plan is to bet if a five comes and it's checked to me, otherwise call. If a 4 had come I would have bet/raised it. Sound good?

Is 15/30 normally such a limpfest?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $15.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (8 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (13 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, BB calls.

River: (19 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: 15/30 55 in EP

There really isn't anything you could have done differently now is there? I agree with everything, but I don't raise if the 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] comes.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:29 AM
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Raise the flop.
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Old 11-10-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 55 in EP

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Raise the flop.

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Old 11-10-2005, 02:07 PM
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Raise the flop.

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Old 11-10-2005, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 55 in EP

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Raise the flop.

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I'm assuming you guys are saying raise the flop when UTG+1 bets?

Probably a good move to get out some weaker overcard hands here I guess and increase the chance of my fives holding up. That is the reason, right? At the table I think I was thinking about this incorrectly. I thought since there were 537 other guys in the hand that the next card would be devastating if it wasn't a 4 or possibly 5. Increasing the chance of my fives holding up would probably be better.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:06 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 55 in EP

may sound like a nitty like play but to me 55 is a fold UTG+2.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:18 PM
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may sound like a nitty like play but to me 55 is a fold UTG+2.

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even after two limpers? I think that is weak.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 15/30 55 in EP

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may sound like a nitty like play but to me 55 is a fold UTG+2.

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There are two limpers aleady, and a post from the CO. With 55, you really want a multi-way pot. Flop a set (or a straight draw) or get out. There's more than enough limpers in the pot already to make this an easy call. Doesn't matter if it's 1/2 or 150/300. Mutli-way is multi-way.

Also, at this point the fact the you are UTG+2 isn't really that important. In pots with this many players in them, you're pretty much going to have to show down a winner. In fact, having a raise come from one or two spots behind you isn't too bad. If you hit your set, you can check-raise the entire field on the flop.
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