Huge draw on flop

AllIn3High · #1 06-26-2005, 06:49 PM

I'm having trouble playing big draws on the flop in un-unraised pots.

Comments on all streets appriciated (especially the flop)

Villian is 38/15/3.3 and fairly aggressive. No special reads tho.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($36.42)
Button ($161.3)
SB ($94.6)
Hero ($140.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($3) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, SB raises to $9, Hero raises to $30, UTG folds, SB calls $21.

Turn: ($66) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($66) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $25, Hero pushes

xorbie · #2 06-26-2005, 06:57 PM

Perfect.

chumsferd · #3 06-26-2005, 07:20 PM

Crikey, why'd you think you are having trouble? Spot on, I'd say.

beginnersluck13 · #4 06-26-2005, 07:22 PM

I like this as well, but I don't see myself making that reraise on the flop with my draw and I think I would just call there. Just out of curiousity is the purpose of your reraise to get the free card on the turn if you didn't hit?

nuSFwck · #5 06-26-2005, 07:24 PM

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Perfect.

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Just one question, if villian pushed after your reraise on the flop, would you call? I'm curious because I have a difficult time in this situation as well, especially in an unraised pot. If he had a little shorter stack it would be much easier, but he's got a decent stack behind.

xorbie · #6 06-26-2005, 07:24 PM

Or to get a fold.

imported_anacardo · #7 06-26-2005, 07:24 PM

It's to get all his money in. He's a favorite over practically anything but a set. Even there he's real close.

EDIT: All of the above!

nuSFwck · #8 06-26-2005, 07:31 PM

I think just calling here is wrong. He has a monster draw, and in an unraised pot villian could easily have nothing more than top pair. If he raises (or reraises) he gets three results: villian folds and he picks it up, villian calls out of position and gives a free card and hero sees a free river, or villian pushes. 15 outs with two cards to come, is this a call everytime? I'd like to hear what others think.........

imported_anacardo · #9 06-26-2005, 07:35 PM

He 3x reraised a 3x raise. What says more strength than that?

Villain's push is a little dicey on this board; you're crushed by KdXd and behind any set. Read-dependent, I guess, but I'd have a helluva lot of trouble laying this down.

AllIn3High · #10 06-26-2005, 07:47 PM

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Crikey, why'd you think you are having trouble? Spot on, I'd say.

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Because i was discussing it with a couple of others and some advocated just calling his check-raise and getting more money in only if i hit. That or betting the turn.

I played it like I thought was right, but I lost quite a lot of cash last week and have lost confidence in my game.

My reasoning for 3-betting the flop:
1) I'm hoping he folds and I don't have to hit
2) I won't mind a push, the pot is big enough to compensate if he has a set and since it's 4 handed he might push with hands I'm a favorite against
3) If he just calls I can get a free card on the turn if I want to.

And i took the free card since betting would basicly put him all-in and I'm no longer a favorite over any hand he could call with on the flop and I doubt he's folding a better hand (_maybe_ pair+flushdraw).

He folded after i pushed.

Thanks for the input.