steal with A-rag this early?

[dfscott]

I usually make an "any-two" steal here at the higher levels, but I hate doing it with this hand. Thoughts?

Edit: FWIW, ICM calls it a coin-flip for anything but the tighest of callers, so now I'm thinking this is a "wait for a better spot" situation.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney (10+1), Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

Button (t2025)
Hero (t595)
BB (t960)
UTG (t825)
MP (t2960)
CO (t635)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
folded to SB, Hero ???

BTW, sorry for the plethora of what might be pedestrian hands, but after a run of 5,6,4,6,7,7,2,7, I'm reeling a bit and starting to question everything...

(like the way I slipped some whining in there without it being just a whiny post?)

[Deuce2High]

Edited post... actually at first I said I would push but I'm actually not so sure. I'm kind of leaning towards fold now but really it could be either way.... *confused*

[Scuba Chuck]

Before we continue on, I'm interested to know what your thoughts were before you decided to push? Specifically with regard to risk reward issues.

Furthermore, do you know anything about BB?

[The Yugoslavian]

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I usually make an "any-two" steal here at the higher levels


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Big Blind is t50


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Come again?

Yugoslav
PS Clearing up this discrepency will help you immensely in answering your own question...

[Beck]

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I usually make an "any-two" steal here at the higher levels, but I hate doing it with this hand. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney (10+1), Big Blind is t50 (6 handed)

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That would be level 3? Is that considered "higher levels"??

[dfscott]

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I usually make an "any-two" steal here at the higher levels


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Big Blind is t50


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Come again?

Yugoslav
PS Clearing up this discrepency will help you immensely in answering your own question...

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I'm not sure what you mean. By "here" I mean in the SB. My thoughts were that at this level, there's only t75 to steal. At the higher levels that I'd prefer to steal at (4+), I'm getting t150 or more. OTOH, my stack is somewhat small, so t75 is a decent addition -- just not sure if the risk-reward ratio is big enough.

[The Yugoslavian]

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just not sure if the risk-reward ratio is big enough.

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No, it's not.

But pushing is most likely +EV anyway....

Yugoslav
Foldy, foldy, [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[dfscott]

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Before we continue on, I'm interested to know what your thoughts were before you decided to push? Specifically with regard to risk reward issues.

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Well, I was thinking that my stack was pretty small compared to the others and I would be down to 5BB in an orbit or so. A steal would increase my stack by about 15%.

OTOH, my showdown equity was probably pretty crappy -- I'll probably get called by a pair or a better Ace.

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Furthermore, do you know anything about BB?

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Yes, amazingly, I had played him before and he'd won that tournament. He seemed a bit loose and would see a lot of cheap flops but when he showed down, he usually won.

[dfscott]

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I usually make an "any-two" steal here at the higher levels, but I hate doing it with this hand. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney (10+1), Big Blind is t50 (6 handed)

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That would be level 3? Is that considered "higher levels"??

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Ok, I think I understand why everyone is confused. By "here" I meant "from the small blind," and I think everyone thought I mean "level 3."

I make this play from here (i.e., the SB) at level 4 and above, but I'm not sure if it's worth making it at level 3.

Now does my question make more sense?

[Scuba Chuck]

David, just keep pushing your hand into your face. I'm starting to see the frustration.

Yugo's comments are correct, IMO. Pushing here is probably +$EV. But generally not worth the risk reward.