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Old 12-13-2005, 12:48 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 10/20 QQ

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Hey bob,

I think UTG+1 will be calling with whatever he thought was good enough to raise with, though I do normally just cap the flop OOP.

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I don't think a cap is going to push UTG+1 out here so I would cede the value of a flop cap in order to get him to lay down for 2BB on the turn. Losing the EV on the flop has got to be more than balanced out by the equity edge we gain on pushing him out on the turn. Now, if he wants to call 2 cold on the turn, that's his prerogative, but it's likely an error.

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I disagree, the pot is now ginormous, so I don't know how much a turn raise will protect our hand, and I'm not sure it will be of that much more value. With this hand and this size of the pot, I want to put as many bets as possible right now since I am very certain that I am ahead here and gain as much value right now as possilbe

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I disagree with both of your reasonings.

KDawg, why don't you think hands will fold getting 13.5:2 on the turn if we succeed in raising the turn? Many hands should and would fold.

Mempho, by taking your line you're making it correct for utg+1 to call the flop with an overpair, while capping would give that hand incorrect odds. An overpair is his most likely holding imo, so I think capping the flop is the best play.

It seems to me you're just looking at a big pot and don't take into consideration what cards your opponent might have.
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